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Offline AnthonyPadua

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High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:53:53 PM »
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #1 on: February 19, 2024, 04:29:01 PM »
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    • Must be refraction that causes this somehow ... or maybe it's a mirage.
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #2 on: February 19, 2024, 06:44:55 PM »
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    • I’m surprised that no one noticed that at the end of the video the obvious curvature of the Earth was easily seen, as demonstrated in my screenshot. It matches, almost exactly, the simulator he used. The guy used fuzzy footage with straight lines earlier in the video to try and discredit GE.  It is understandably difficult to perceive the subtle curvature at the lower altitudes, but his downfall was the last footage he used.
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #3 on: February 19, 2024, 06:50:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on February 19, 2024, 06:44:55 PM
    I’m surprised that no one noticed that at the end of the video the obvious curvature of the Earth was easily seen, as demonstrated in my screenshot. It matches, almost exactly, the simulator he used. The guy used fuzzy footage with straight lines earlier in the video to try and discredit GE.  It is understandably difficult to perceive the subtle curvature at the lower altitudes, but his downfall was the last footage he used.

    You're kidding, right?  You drew another line at an angle to the line showing the straightness and declared it curvature?  It's tilted at an angle from perfectly horizontal, but it's still straight.  At the time the craft (or, rather, its camera) were tilted from the 180 degree angle you drew on the picture.  You just need to rotate the entire picture counter-clockwise at the same angle you have on your triangle to demonstrate the straightness.
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #4 on: February 19, 2024, 07:03:58 PM »
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    • I just rotated the entire picture 2.52 degrees counter-clockwise, the closest I could get it to perfectly level/horizontal using a straightedge against the side of my monitor screen.  You simply created an optical illusion where the "drop" / "curve" was due to the fact that you drew the line directly across horizontal on the picture, assuming that the craft's/camera's attitude was perfectly level/horizontal.  I'll assume that this was not deliberate deception on your part.

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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #5 on: February 19, 2024, 07:14:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2024, 07:03:58 PM
    I just rotated the entire picture 2.52 degrees counter-clockwise, the closest I could get it to perfectly level/horizontal using a straightedge against the side of my monitor screen.  You simply created an optical illusion where the "drop" / "curve" was due to the fact that you drew the line directly across horizontal on the picture, assuming that the craft's/camera's attitude was perfectly level/horizontal.  I'll assume that this was not deliberate deception on your part.



    You are absolutely correct, I stand corrected on this point. Do you happen to know the widths in miles that were used in the simulation as opposed to the footage he used?
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #6 on: February 19, 2024, 07:25:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on February 19, 2024, 07:14:48 PM
    You are absolutely correct, I stand corrected on this point. Do you happen to know the widths in miles that were used in the simulation as opposed to the footage he used?

    No, and that would be one thing to look at the entire viewing angle of the image.  You could argue for a bit of a curve on the left side there, but I think the blue beneath the line is just water, as you can judge by the amount of "haze" above the line.

    I apologize for having been belligerent/hostile in my previous post.  It's just a reflex from being attack as an insane lunatic on a regular basis regarding the FE view.

    But I think that his bigger point that he didn't articulate or emphasize well was that there should also be a significant drop in the eye-level horizon.  Again, that could be affected by the angle/attitude of the camera, but the image from the Red Bull jump capsule was fairly conclusive.

    So the way I look at it is this.  If you were to look from one side of Kansas to another, you would have a curvature drop of 120,000 feet (according to globe curvature math).  Many amateur balloons seem to top off right around 120,000 feet.  So the drop in altitude from one end of Kansas to the other should be the same as the 120,000 feet that those balloons go up to, and there's simply no evidence of such a drop in the horizon line from "eye level".
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #7 on: March 31, 2024, 01:07:49 AM »
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    • Right now, I'm looking at a distant moon near the horizon lit up from below. How is it possible on a FE?
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #8 on: March 31, 2024, 05:28:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on March 31, 2024, 01:07:49 AM
    Right now, I'm looking at a distant moon near the horizon lit up from below. How is it possible on a FE?

    It isn’t possible to explain using the conventional FE model. This is exactly why I keep insisting that FE adherents need to come up with a model that actually works *before* they push their theory. What the common man can observe on a daily basis, how the sun rises and sets, lunar phases and cycles, solar and lunar eclipses, measurable distances between oceans and land masses, measurable distances between cities, etc., demands an explanation.
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #9 on: March 31, 2024, 05:34:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 19, 2024, 07:25:55 PM
    I apologize for having been belligerent/hostile in my previous post.  It's just a reflex from being attack as an insane lunatic on a regular basis regarding the FE view.

    I just saw this. No worries, I’m not one to hold grudges. 😀
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #10 on: March 31, 2024, 06:18:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on March 31, 2024, 05:28:50 AM
    It isn’t possible to explain using the conventional FE model. This is exactly why I keep insisting that FE adherents need to come up with a model that actually works *before* they push their theory. What the common man can observe on a daily basis, how the sun rises and sets, lunar phases and cycles, solar and lunar eclipses, measurable distances between oceans and land masses, measurable distances between cities, etc., demands an explanation.
    The globe model needs explain why there is no measurable curvature and why we can see much further than globe calculations account for.
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    Re: High Altitude Footage Proves Earth is Flat and Not a Globe
    « Reply #11 on: March 31, 2024, 07:26:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on March 31, 2024, 06:18:28 AM
    The globe model needs explain why there is no measurable curvature and why we can see much further than globe calculations account for.

    Have you used a telescope, a telescopic camera, or used any other method to measure the lack of curvature yourself?
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