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Offline AlNg

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Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2024, 09:27:43 PM »
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #16 on: July 08, 2024, 09:32:30 PM »
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  • OK. We can forget about Dave or even Eric Dubay because there is:

    https://www.astronomy.com/astronomy-for-beginners/why-earth-is-not-flat-the-conspiracy-debunked/
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/07/fact-check-roundup-what-scientists-say-flat-earth-evidence/10802218002/


    At LEAST TWO classic "begging the question" fallacies in the first few paragraphs in the first link. Assuming gravity, assuming outer space vacuum as a backdrop for the universe, and assuming stars are spheres (of burning gas no doubt). Stopped reading.

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    Left to itself without divine intervention, a disc world would collapse under its own gravity forming a sphere like other planets, large moons, and stars.

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #17 on: July 08, 2024, 09:38:41 PM »
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  • OK. We can forget about Dave or even Eric Dubay because there is:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/07/fact-check-roundup-what-scientists-say-flat-earth-evidence/10802218002/


    Humans first theorized the Earth may be spherical in ancient Greece thousands of years ago, according to the American Physical Society. Since then, scientists have discovered an abundance of evidence to confirm this is the case – including seeing Earth itself from space.

    1. The first "globe" model of the earth was made around 1500. So no, humans didn't "know darn well the earth is a globe for thousands of years". But this lie persists.
    2. There is no "abundance of evidence". In fact, there is zero evidence the earth moves, and zero evidence the earth is a globe.
    3. There are no photos from space. All the globe photos you find in Google turn out to be PHOTOSHOPPED, COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES. Cartoons. The only one they claim is a real photo is the 1972 "Blue Marble", but we all know the Apollo program was a hoax, from other evidence.
    4. I stopped reading this article, too, at this point. Once I hit that many logical fallacies I know I'm wasting my time with low-quality propaganda slop.
    5. USA Today? Really? You don't think that's owned by the J--s, used exclusively as a propaganda outlet for the dumb goyim?

    See, the "dumb Flat Earthers" know their stuff, and it's the Globers who have been brainwashed with various propaganda talking points. They haven't even tried to test them, verify them, or even think about any of these "facts" they take for granted. I'm positive that a good chunk of modern day humans don't even understand perspective. They claim we could see forever physically -- only the curvature of the earth prevents this. And they call US ignorant! That's rich.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #18 on: July 09, 2024, 12:17:18 AM »
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  •  there is zero evidence the earth moves,
    There is an argument based on the Foucault pendulum.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #19 on: July 09, 2024, 12:34:12 AM »
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    Humans first theorized the Earth may be spherical in Ancient Greece 
    Let's put “Ancient Greece” into some perspective.  

    1.  The Ancient Greeks were Uber-pagan, who worshipped all manner of false gods.
    2.  Their main god was the sun, which is the reason they “invented” heliocentrism. 
    3.  Their civilization was full of debauchery, pedophilia and other immorality.  
    4.  The “hellenization” of the ancient world was founded upon freemasonic principles (which tried to create a global culture) and this almost destroyed the Israelite religion.  (See Scripture: Macabees 2).  

    Summary:  The Greeks didn’t just “come up” with this theory due to science and proofs.  No, this theory of heliocentric sun-worship goes back to the Tower of Babel.  It is demonic and Freemasonic. 

    Sun worship is meant to replace God's creation, where MAN is the center of creation, and ultimately CHRIST is the central figure, as the Redeemer of man.  While sun worship seeks to worship Lucifer as “the (false) light” of the world and seeks to dethrone Christ/man as the center/purpose of all creation.  

    Final Summary:  a rich, pagan, perverse and powerful culture, seeks to unite all cultures and faiths into one global culture and one central religion, teaches heliocentrism in an attempt to downplay Gods true Religion and destroy its belief system.  

    Sound familiar?  It happened post-Flood at the Tower of Babel.  It happened again, a few hundred years before Christ, during the Greeks day. And it’s happening again today.  The magic number 3. 


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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #20 on: July 09, 2024, 11:56:04 AM »
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  • Let's put “Ancient Greece” into some perspective. 

    1.  The Ancient Greeks were Uber-pagan, who worshipped all manner of false gods.
    2.  Their main god was the sun, which is the reason they “invented” heliocentrism.
    3.  Their civilization was full of debauchery, pedophilia and other immorality. 
    4.  The “hellenization” of the ancient world was founded upon freemasonic principles (which tried to create a global culture) and this almost destroyed the Israelite religion.  (See Scripture: Macabees 2). 

    Summary:  The Greeks didn’t just “come up” with this theory due to science and proofs.  No, this theory of heliocentric sun-worship goes back to the Tower of Babel.  It is demonic and Freemasonic.

    Sun worship is meant to replace God's creation, where MAN is the center of creation, and ultimately CHRIST is the central figure, as the Redeemer of man.  While sun worship seeks to worship Lucifer as “the (false) light” of the world and seeks to dethrone Christ/man as the center/purpose of all creation. 

    Final Summary:  a rich, pagan, perverse and powerful culture, seeks to unite all cultures and faiths into one global culture and one central religion, teaches heliocentrism in an attempt to downplay Gods true Religion and destroy its belief system. 

    Sound familiar?  It happened post-Flood at the Tower of Babel.  It happened again, a few hundred years before Christ, during the Greeks day. And it’s happening again today.  The magic number 3.
    The Pythagorean theorem was formulated in ancient Greece at about 450 BC and Euclidean Geometry at about 300 BC. These works stand in spite of the immorality of the society.
    American society is currently "full of debauchery, pedophilia and other immorality" , and i heard that this is even true outside of America and in some churches.  

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #21 on: July 09, 2024, 01:00:39 PM »
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    The Pythagorean theorem was formulated in ancient Greece at about 450 BC and Euclidean Geometry at about 300 BC. These works stand in spite of the immorality of the society.
    That's fine, but neither of these prove heliocentrism.  These are basic math formulas.

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #22 on: July 09, 2024, 02:00:28 PM »
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  • There is an argument based on the Foucault pendulum.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

    A pendulum shows that something is in motion but it doesn't necessarily show that the earth is in motion.  It can also be argued that the heavens rotate like clockwork around a fixed earth.



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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #23 on: July 09, 2024, 02:08:30 PM »
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  • That's fine, but neither of these prove heliocentrism.  These are basic math formulas.
    The geocentric model is possible from a mathematical viewpoint, and from Scripture passages such as Ecclesiastes 1:5, which says, "The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises" ,but with the geocentric model  it is difficult (if not impossible) to account for the physical  forces involved in the observable retrograde motion of the planets or the epicycles. The heliocentric system nicely explains the physical forces involved. Many religious scholars today interpret biblical passages supporting geocentrism  in light of their historical context and the knowledge available at the time they were written, rather than as definitive statements about the physical structure of the universe. They might say that these passages are written in the language and understanding of their time and that the Bible is not a scientific textbook. 

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #24 on: July 09, 2024, 02:15:19 PM »
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  •  It can also be argued that the heavens rotate like clockwork around a fixed earth.


    Supposing a flat earth, does this rotation of the heavens occur parallel to the planar earth or at some angle to it? Or is the angle of motion moving somehow? 

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #25 on: July 09, 2024, 02:21:26 PM »
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    but with the geocentric model  it is difficult (if not impossible) to account for the physical  forces involved in the observable retrograde motion of the planets or the epicycles.
    Just because science can't explain it (and admittedly, modern science doesn't want to, since their religion is based on helio/sun worship), doesn't mean there's not an explanation.

    History shows us that countless times science has been wrong.  Less than a 100 years ago, science thought atoms were the smallest particles.  Not anymore.  The more we dig, the more we find.  Mankind can never dig enough to discover God's magnificence.

    But let's be honest...if modern science wasn't so atheistic and pagan (and satanic), then the geocentric model could've been proven (but they don't want to).

    Why is modern science ok with geocentrism but scared of FE?  This makes no sense, unless FE attacks their "religion" (i.e. aliens, evolution, etc) and supports Scripture/catholic theology.


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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
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  • Let's put “Ancient Greece” into some perspective. 

    1.  The Ancient Greeks were Uber-pagan, who worshipped all manner of false gods.
    2.  Their main god was the sun, which is the reason they “invented” heliocentrism.
    3.  Their civilization was full of debauchery, pedophilia and other immorality. 
    4.  The “hellenization” of the ancient world was founded upon freemasonic principles (which tried to create a global culture) and this almost destroyed the Israelite religion.  (See Scripture: Macabees 2). 

    Summary:  The Greeks didn’t just “come up” with this theory due to science and proofs.  No, this theory of heliocentric sun-worship goes back to the Tower of Babel.  It is demonic and Freemasonic.

    Sun worship is meant to replace God's creation, where MAN is the center of creation, and ultimately CHRIST is the central figure, as the Redeemer of man.  While sun worship seeks to worship Lucifer as “the (false) light” of the world and seeks to dethrone Christ/man as the center/purpose of all creation. 

    Final Summary:  a rich, pagan, perverse and powerful culture, seeks to unite all cultures and faiths into one global culture and one central religion, teaches heliocentrism in an attempt to downplay Gods true Religion and destroy its belief system. 

    Sound familiar?  It happened post-Flood at the Tower of Babel.  It happened again, a few hundred years before Christ, during the Greeks day. And it’s happening again today.  The magic number 3.
    I have a hunch that Pythagoras was influenced by Edomites (Jews). I have no evidence to back up my hunch but it would make a lot of sense. 
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