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Offline Gray2023

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Re: FE and geometry
« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2024, 09:15:39 PM »
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  • So the pictures show about 3 feet missing ("A"?)  :facepalm:

    Maybe, maybe not, as there appears to be vertical compression of the entire image (probably due to atmospheric factors), but 3 feet could be ANYthing, including some choppy waves that day.

    You guys don't even try.  It's pathetic and why I've stopped wasting my time on you people.

    See the pictures taken by FEs where up to 11 miles out there's absolutely nothing missing from the bottom, or the photographs (by none FEs, certified by agencies) of a lighthouse that rises 150 feet above sea level from 230+ miles away, where it should be hidden but miles of curvature by nevertheless remains fully visible.

    This is utterly pathetic to behold.
    What is the name of the lighthouse and who took the picture?  Trying to find it, but had no luck.  All I have found is the above vague reference in different CathInfo posts.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #91 on: August 21, 2024, 01:37:00 AM »
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  • Let's turn around your "logic" and apply it towards the "globe".  Now picture the "earth globe model" and ask the following same questions:


    Where is [the firmament] on a [globe earth]? Can I [as a catholic] use this map anywhere in [Scripture]? Sorry but this is [heretical] and entirely [anti-catholic]... I think I'll just say a pray for you and call it a day.

    Have you used any 2D map before? Lets say your in the US, is there any 2D map of your surroundings that you agree with?

    Now you have one piece of the puzzle, I am from Australia and have my own 2D maps of where I am that I can know are accurate.

    When we start piecing these together we start to get an accurate picture... Now if you use 2D Google Maps, then that will work fine for a flat Earth until you get to the North Pole (Which even the flat Earth posters agree on as they've already posted some very early 2D maps of the North Pole from 1595 for example) now if you take one of these 2D maps of the North Pole and work outwards for a flat and circular Earth... then that'll work okay for a little while but when you get to Australia (Southern Hemisphere) it will be massively warped as I can see and know very clearly myself.

    The only way these 2D maps can all fit together is with a globe Earth.

    Then you take your telescope and see the Moon and Planets first hand around us and see that we are surrounded by globes. These are just some ways we can work this out first hand and know for sure... It just depends where you are and what tools you have at your disposal... but the globe Earth is not as controversial as some posters are trying to make it out to be IMO.

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #92 on: August 21, 2024, 12:19:04 PM »
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  • the globe Earth is not as controversial as some posters are trying to make it out to be IMO.
    I agree that the theory of globe earth is not contoversial. Why is that so?

    This is where we disagree. I think the reason the globe earth heliocentric theory is not controversial is that we have all been brainwashed since early childhood to believe that there two theories are fact.

    You and the vast majority of the population, who (like all of us) have been taught from childhood that those who reject the theories of globe earth and heliocentricism are crackpots. Also taught from childhood is the notion that these  theories are scientific fact.

    In reality, science is based on observation and (as we see here on CI in microcosm) both sides (or all three sides if we include geocentricism) produce observations to support their respective theories.

    Fauchi lied when he said "the science is settled" just as he lied when he said "I AM science." Run away from anyone who puts forth the lie that "the science is settled." In science, nothing is settled until the hypothesis or theory is proven. This has not been done with the theories of globe earth, flat earth, heliocentricism or geocentricism. The theory with the best proof may be geocentricism, not due to provable scientific fact, but due to the overwhelming proof that the theory of heliocentricism is well-docuмented as occult and anti-God.
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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #93 on: August 21, 2024, 12:34:47 PM »
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  • This is where we disagree. I think the reason the globe earth heliocentric theory is not controversial is that we have all been brainwashed since early childhood to believe that there two theories are fact.

    I do recall being uncomfortable with the thought of living on the side of a ball when the concept was first introduced to me, and I couldn't quite buy it on one level, but over time I overcame the initial hesitation through the forced indoctrination.  My wife also said she felt the same way.  Similarly, when sitting still and closing your eyes, everything appears very still, and the thought that we're flying through space at hundreds of thousands of miles per hour seems preposterous on the face of it ... except, again, we decided to believe it after the indoctrination.  I think it's precisely because the indoctrination was so forced contrary to our common sense perceptions that it's so difficult for people to unwind it.  It did great violence to our instincts.

    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #94 on: August 21, 2024, 12:49:38 PM »
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  • I do recall being uncomfortable with the thought of living on the side of a ball when the concept was first introduced to me, and I couldn't quite buy it on one level, but over time I overcame the initial hesitation through the forced indoctrination.  My wife also said she felt the same way.  Similarly, when sitting still and closing your eyes, everything appears very still, and the though that we're flying through space at hundreds of thousands of miles per hour seems preposterous on the face of it ... except, again, we decided to believe it after the indoctrination.  I think it's precisely because the indoctrination was so forced contrary to our common sense perceptions that it's so difficult for people to unwind it.  It did great violence to our instincts.
    Your post inspired random questions.

    Why do tectonic plates shift if the earth is stagnant?  What causes volcanos to push through the ground?  I guess to me I can imagine a ball being squished and such things happening, bur not a pancake. 

     I don't know about how fast things are moving in space.  I do think the Earth (globe) is spinning and the sun and planets move around the earth (geocentric).  I think some force keeps us and the water on the planet, but I don't know how that works.  

    I am fine with people believing what they want.  I am not fine with people calling me brainwashed, or not trying, or throwing any negative statement at me and claiming it's obvious,  when it is not.

    What I do know is that this discussion, though interesting, actually has no bearing on whether I am trying to be a good Catholic or not.

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #95 on: August 21, 2024, 01:27:17 PM »
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  • The earth is not a pancake, but the land is.  Volcanos and earthquakes happen due to changes in the earth's core, which is far, far below the flat land mass.



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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #96 on: August 21, 2024, 01:42:30 PM »
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  • The earth is not a pancake, but the land is.  Volcanos and earthquakes happen due to changes in the earth's core, which is far, far below the flat land mass.





    Pax, please explain how the Sun is not seen at all times on all places of your Earth model.
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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #97 on: August 21, 2024, 02:08:59 PM »
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  • Because the sun is much, much, MUCH smaller than the current story.  And it shines like a spotlight, with more focused light/heat, than the current story.


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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #98 on: August 21, 2024, 02:16:49 PM »
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  • Crepuscular rays support that idea, kind of like a street light at night.





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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #99 on: August 21, 2024, 02:32:21 PM »
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  • Because the sun is much, much, MUCH smaller than the current story.  And it shines like a spotlight, with more focused light/heat, than the current story.


    So when the Sun sets or rises, why do we see it as being round and approximately the same size and not as a disk that gets smaller as it’s setting or larger when it’s rising? How is it that the Sun appears on the Eastern horizon incrementally appearing from top to bottom and disappearing on the Western horizon from bottom to top?
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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #100 on: August 21, 2024, 02:33:57 PM »
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  • Crepuscular rays support that idea, kind of like a street light at night.





    Take that spotlight and use a diameter of 32 miles.  Put it 3000 miles in the air aboce the earth and calculate what diameter is covered by the light off that spotlight.  I am not in a place where I can do the math right now, so I will try to show the answer hopefully by tomorrow.
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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #101 on: August 21, 2024, 02:45:33 PM »
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  • Crepuscular rays support that idea, kind of like a street light at night.






    Crepuscular rays are actually parallel, it is just perspective.
    Here is a picture of anti crepuscular rays:


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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #102 on: August 21, 2024, 03:22:41 PM »
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    Crepuscular rays are actually parallel, it is just perspective.
    :facepalm: :laugh2:   Your guys' view of the value of perspective changes a lot.  Sometimes you say "trust your eyeballs" and other times you say (because Science told you) "perspective is wrong".

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #103 on: August 21, 2024, 03:25:21 PM »
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    So when the Sun sets or rises, why do we see it as being round and approximately the same size and not as a disk that gets smaller as it’s setting or larger when it’s rising?
    It would be the same size as it rises/sets because it would be the same distance at that time/ or the same intensity of its focus.


    The sun is different sizes in the summer/winter because it's closer/further away.

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    Re: FE and geometry
    « Reply #104 on: August 21, 2024, 03:41:05 PM »
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  • :facepalm: :laugh2:  Your guys' view of the value of perspective changes a lot.  Sometimes you say "trust your eyeballs" and other times you say (because Science told you) "perspective is wrong".



    Then you need to explain anti crepuscular rays. The short video below explains why you are mistaken:

    https://youtu.be/cTPLqbl-HGY?si=ycN74fvPmJdizbAc
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