Author Topic: % Confidence in Earth's Shape (Read 65162 times)

Tradman · « **Reply #75 on:** August 04, 2022, 02:58:34 PM »

This is my personal video of the stars taken with my P900. Sorry about the bouncing around, my tripod was junk.

apollo · « **Reply #76 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:13:07 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on August 02, 2022, 06:49:16 PM

99% flat surface with domed firmament

Stationary earth, 100%.

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Here is a debate about this topic (about 1 hour, though).
There is actual proof that the Earth is a globe, shown in the video.

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #77 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:38:21 PM »

Quote from: apollo on August 04, 2022, 03:13:07 PM

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Here is a debate about this topic (about 1 hour, though).
There is actual proof that the Earth is a globe, shown in the video.

Why would anyone here care what "Professor" Dave has to say? The man has been shown to be a total fool by actual scientists, let alone other Flat Earthers

apollo · « **Reply #78 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:43:10 PM »

apollo · « **Reply #79 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:45:02 PM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on August 04, 2022, 03:38:21 PM

Why would anyone here care what "Professor" Dave has to say? The man has been shown to be a total fool by actual scientists, let alone other Flat Earthers

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Well, then don't watch the video. I did not post this reply for people
who prefer to stick their head in the sand.

bodeens · « **Reply #80 on:** August 04, 2022, 03:46:09 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on August 04, 2022, 01:44:50 PM

Yeah, if I were rich I'd like to get a nice telescope and test out some of this stuff personally.

You'd be surprised how gullible people are, when they WANT to be/stay deceived.

I know a man who's a near-genius at electronics -- Dave Jones, of EEVblog fame -- he really knows his stuff -- but he unironically likes (and believes in) that recent NASA photo of the moon crossing the earth. He had it as his PC background wallpaper.

Having cast off the Faith of his Fathers, he is now wandering in the wilderness, the closest thing to religion in his life is "science". He does debunk some modern climate-saving "snake oil" schemes like Solar Roadways, but that's only because they give other science-worshipers like himself a bad name. Kind of like many Trads get hot and angry over other Trads that give them a bad name. That seems to be a very human condition.

Kids do take quite a bit of money... You and your older son (I remember you posted about him liking ham radio and passing his tests so this seems like another good one for you both) could try assembling www.thingiverse.con/thing:408184... Should only be a few hundred and it has an 8" primary. If you don't have a large printer then there are other designs out there to buy/print... 12" scopes are around a thousand bucks preassembled, 8" you can shop around for maybe 4-500 assembled and shipped in case printing is not your thing.

St Giles · « **Reply #81 on:** August 04, 2022, 05:23:03 PM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on August 04, 2022, 01:11:08 PM

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not particularly 100% convinced by p900 and p1000 videos of stars. I'll have to see about getting a decent telescope once we sell our house.

Not long ago I was hoping to get a budget go-to 12" which can be had for ~$1000 or so, and try to mount a good non-telescope specific camera to it if possible, to hopefully get some decent deep space images of a neighboring galaxy or something. If I had the money I'd try to build an array, like with 4 of those 12" scopes to equal a 24", but at a fraction of the cost.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #82 on:** August 04, 2022, 08:06:36 PM »

Quote from: apollo on August 04, 2022, 03:45:02 PM

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Well, then don't watch the video. I did not post this reply for people
who prefer to stick their head in the sand.

You're the one sticking your head in the sand. Mr. Dave's videos are sheer nonsense. But it figures coming from someone who chose a pagan sun god as his forum name. You've already decided that the earth can't be flat, refuse to objectively consider the evidence, and apply confirmation bias to that which you believe supports your position. I've objectively looked at both sides, but I find absolutely none of Mr. Dave's "proofs" to be the least bit convincing.

Donachie · « **Reply #83 on:** August 04, 2022, 08:12:24 PM »

100% sure that it's a sphere, but heliocentrics would like to say that it's an "oblate spheroid" due to "gravity", but "gravity" so-called is not even any kind of lateral force, and weight by itself, which is real gravity, does not constitute a source of motion.

Aristotle and Plato had it right imo. The formation of the Earth itself was spherical. It's like Empedocles and Meteorology. There are only three kinds of motion among all the elements: from the center to the center and around the center, as like goes to like and things that are alike increase, etc. The Earth is condensed as a sphere at rest at the center of the cosmos which is entirely 3-D. A sphere gives perfect balance to all the many sides of vanishing flatness that it has, and has the same relation to the infinite as to the center or circuмference.

Donachie · « **Reply #84 on:** August 04, 2022, 11:16:20 PM »

Al-Ghazali wrote that "the body of the heavens proceeds from only one and the same simple entity and the simple can cause only that which is simple of shape, namely the sphere, and that which is perfectly homogeneous, that is, has no special distinguishable character."

All the tangent sides of a sphere are the same, and innumerable, and the sphere itself has one side overall in the surface, of which all points are the same difference. There's no distinction between up or down or lateral or vertical in a true sphere. Labels, of relative position among things, begin to separate out the parts.

apollo · « **Reply #85 on:** August 05, 2022, 04:48:45 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on August 04, 2022, 08:06:36 PM

You're the one sticking your head in the sand. Mr. Dave's videos are sheer nonsense. But it figures coming from someone who chose a pagan sun god as his forum name. You've already decided that the earth can't be flat, refuse to objectively consider the evidence, and apply confirmation bias to that which you believe supports your position. I've objectively looked at both sides, but I find absolutely none of Mr. Dave's "proofs" to be the least bit convincing.

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Is that your proof? Very logical.

Ad hominem attacks. "sheer nonsense". More ad hominem attacks.
And the most important proof: "I find none of Mr Dave's proofs to be convincing".

Wow. It's hard to argue against that. I didn't think you would. You have proved
that numerous times in the past with your ad hominem attacks.

Apollo was a hermit in the BC era. Look it up. But then your ad hominem attack
will be nullified.

I wonder if you can figure out why I only visit CathInfo about once or twice a year.
Looks like no progress has been made since one year ago.

I repeat my proposal, that you look at this video (this is the first one of ten).
I wonder if you can even understand the first one.

Emile · « **Reply #86 on:** August 05, 2022, 05:19:16 PM »

Quote from: apollo on August 05, 2022, 04:48:45 PM

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Is that your proof? Very logical.

Ad hominem attacks. "sheer nonsense". More ad hominem attacks.
And the most important proof: "I find none of Mr Dave's proofs to be convincing".

Wow. It's hard to argue against that. I didn't think you would. You have proved
that numerous times in the past with your ad hominem attacks.

Apollo was a hermit in the BC era. Look it up. But then your ad hominem attack
will be nullified.

I wonder if you can figure out why I only visit CathInfo about once or twice a year.
Looks like no progress has been made since one year ago.

I repeat my proposal, that you look at this video (this is the first one of ten).
I wonder if you can even understand the first one.

Not to intrude between you and Lad, but the video that you posted has been rebutted before:

https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/geo-centrism-conference/msg743955/#msg743955

apollo · « **Reply #87 on:** August 05, 2022, 06:05:13 PM »

Quote from: Emile on August 05, 2022, 05:19:16 PM

Not to intrude between you and Lad, but the video that you posted has been rebutted before:

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That was not a refutation at that time and is not a refutation now.
I'm going to take a few months or years away from CathInfo.

Good luck finding the "gravity of the universe" and measuring it.

Donachie · « **Reply #88 on:** August 05, 2022, 06:48:47 PM »

Quote from: apollo on August 05, 2022, 04:48:45 PM

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Is that your proof? Very logical.

Ad hominem attacks. "sheer nonsense". More ad hominem attacks.
And the most important proof: "I find none of Mr Dave's proofs to be convincing".

Wow. It's hard to argue against that. I didn't think you would. You have proved
that numerous times in the past with your ad hominem attacks.

Apollo was a hermit in the BC era. Look it up. But then your ad hominem attack
will be nullified.

I wonder if you can figure out why I only visit CathInfo about once or twice a year.
Looks like no progress has been made since one year ago.

I repeat my proposal, that you look at this video (this is the first one of ten).
I wonder if you can even understand the first one.

This is sort of a brief abstract discovered at Texas A & M. "Gravity" is not a lateral force. "Gravity" does not move anything sideways. However, the Moon goes laterally around the Earth. Therefore, it cannot be "gravity" that moves the Moon around the Earth.

The end of "gravity" is also the end of heliocentrism. Without Newtonian "gravity" as a force, heliocentrism will fail in further demonstrative proofs, etc.

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #89 on:** August 05, 2022, 07:18:23 PM »

Quote from: Donachie on August 05, 2022, 06:48:47 PM

This is sort of a brief abstract discovered at Texas A & M. "Gravity" is not a lateral force. "Gravity" does not move anything sideways. However, the Moon goes laterally around the Earth. Therefore, it cannot be "gravity" that moves the Moon around the Earth.

The end of "gravity" is also the end of heliocentrism. Without Newtonian "gravity" as a force, heliocentrism will fail in further demonstrative proofs, etc.

Electromagnetic or electrostatic forces are a much more likely explanation for the behavior of the sun and moon's circling the earth. It even works in favor of a spherical earth as it gives a more practical means of how objects remain affixed to the spheroid globe.

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