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Offline Marulus Fidelis

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Re: Challenge for globe earthers
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2023, 03:05:38 AM »
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  • By the way, if you're a heliocentrist, which is a rarity among self-professed traditional Catholics, you should take a look at just one of many reasons why you must reject heliocentrism:


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    The Sacred Tribunal being therefore of intention to proceed against the disorder and mischief thence resulting, which went on increasing to the prejudice of the Sacred Faith, by command of His Highness and of the Most Eminent Lords Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the Sun and the motion of the Earth were by the theological Qualifiers qualified as follows: 

    The proposition that the Sun is the centre of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to the Holy Scripture. 

    The proposition that the Earth is not the centre of the world and immovable but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically and theologically considered at least erroneous in faith.
    https://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf

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    Re: Challenge for globe earthers
    « Reply #62 on: November 18, 2023, 12:18:47 PM »
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  • Leo Ferrari explains that Augustine was influenced by his conversion to the Christian religion after being raised in the pagan mindset

    and rejected the globe because the Christians rejected it. 




    Ferrari also says:

    Photius was markedly critical of Diodore, noting that he was undoubtedly “a true

    believer,” but that his scriptural proofs were lacking in cogency.14

    There is some evidence that Diodore of Tarsus passed on his cosmological views

    to his students, which included Theodore of Mopsuestia (c. 350–428/29) and John

    Chrysostom (c. 345–407). In his tract On the Creation of the World (546/60), John

    Philoponus repeatedly criticizes Theodore and his school for their use of biblical

    citations in an effort to contradict the spherical cosmology of the philosophers.15

    That Chrysostom held similar views to Diodore and Theodore concerning the earth’s

    flatness becomes apparent from his references to the world as a cosmic tabernacle.16

    An even clearer picture is provided by one of Chrysostom’s contemporaries (and

    personal rivals), Severianus of Gabala (d. after 408), whose Homilies on Genesis

    depict a tabernacle-shaped universe with a flat earth at the bottom.17 Finally, there is the famous sixth-century case of Cosmas Indicopleustes, whose Christian To-

    pography (ca. 550) contains by far the most elaborate and systematic example of a scripturally derived flat-earth cosmology that has come down to us. Although

    Cosmas spent most of his life in Byzantine Egypt, there are clear links between his

    own writings and the aforementioned Syriac or Antiochene tradition.