Author Topic: 50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat (Read 340479 times)

happenby · « **Reply #295 on:** March 09, 2017, 05:46:55 PM »

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So you say. In fact, a 360 panoramic view from 10,000 ft should give a clue. Still you say you don't get it. Ok. Let's try something different. Water in my glass, in my pool, in the lake behind my house. It's no more or less curved than the ocean. Why? Because water surface remains flat at rest. Water has never stuck to a curved outside surface of a ball, ever. Only heliocentric theorists believe such nonsense and then refrain from providing evidence for it. For Catholics, believing that is really not an option because heliocentrism has been condemned by the Church, by scripture, by saints, by popes. Perhaps a long consideration about the properties of water and the church's condemnation will clear things up for you.

I did the math on the surface of a pool in a previous thread as well. The center of the pool is something like 1/20,000th of an inch higher than the ends due to the earth's curvature. Good luck measuring that.

Since you did not, and cannot show this silly premise to be true, why would you post it? Who's word about such an anomaly is trustworthy enough to chuck reason out the window?

I didn't bring it up. You did. I showed, using logic and simple math, why it isn't the proof you think it is. Is this too confusing for you?

Ok, 1/20,000th of an inch of unprovable hearsay? Confusion happened, but its all in your head.

noOneImportant · « **Reply #296 on:** March 09, 2017, 05:53:17 PM »

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Ok, 1/20,000th of an inch of unprovable hearsay? Confusion happened, but its all in your head.

Since you appear to be having trouble, I'll spell it out for you.

1. You claimed water remains "flat" at rest, citing a pool and a lake as proof.
2. I pointed out that these are not proof, because the curvature over them is small enough that it can't be detected without incredibly sensitive equipment anyway.

My memory was off, and it's actually larger than I remembered, but my point still stands. Based off the assumed radius of the earth of ~4k miles, a 200 foot pool would have a curvature of 1/100th of an inch. So no, you can't claim "I looked at my pool and it was flat!" as "proof" of anything.

happenby · « **Reply #297 on:** March 09, 2017, 06:04:25 PM »

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But if the earth were flat, the angle between the north star, Polaris, and the horizon, would always be the same, regardless of latitude.

Not at all.

mw is correct. Why is everyone in this thread so bad at geometry? It is trivial to show the curvature of the earth with basic geometry. The greeks did it over 2000 years ago.

And you have no evidence at all!

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #298 on:** March 09, 2017, 06:07:06 PM »

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The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

And that's why truly flat, consistently level surfaces don't exist. The fact is that you need a very large body of water for the curvature to be large enough to detect. A little simple algebra can demonstrate this. So you need to either be at a coastline, where you can observe the sun sinking below the horizon, or some other sufficiently large body of water.

The spring equinox is in a few weeks, so anyone unconvinced can easily go observe for themselves the proof of the round earth by watching sunrise on the 20th. See (the last part of the video I think) for a full explanation of the proof and why it works.

What does the Pope have to do with anything at all?

The sun does not sink below the horizon.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Zy_qg5EbJk[/youtube]

happenby · « **Reply #299 on:** March 09, 2017, 06:14:58 PM »

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Quote from: noOneImportant
Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: Neil Obstat

But if the earth were flat, the angle between the north star, Polaris, and the horizon, would always be the same, regardless of latitude.

Not at all.

mw is correct. Why is everyone in this thread so bad at geometry? It is trivial to show the curvature of the earth with basic geometry. The greeks did it over 2000 years ago.

And you have no evidence at all!

Sorry, this was posted to the wrong person...