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Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
« Reply #15 on: Today at 06:07:18 AM »
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  • Yes, Croix makes a mockery of CathInfo here, since he's turned Matthew's bannings into a complete joke ... where they laugh about his coming back repeatedly.  Shameful.

    I've found this cuckoldry so inexplicable on the part of Matthew that I've sometimes suspected that Matthew himself is behind the Croix accounts in order to generate activity on the forum.
    Correct. Don't forget encouraging him to come back. It is a mockery regardless of the explanations (and I fully expect at least "2" downthumbs for this post). This might be one of the few things you and I completely agree on. 

    From what I have gathered, we/the forum needs to accept his being here.  But report any offending posts.  Outside of that, he will always be here. It appears that Matthew cannot/will not ban him forever.

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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #16 on: Today at 11:37:02 AM »
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  • Yes, Croix makes a mockery of CathInfo here, since he's turned Matthew's bannings into a complete joke ... where they laugh about his coming back repeatedly.  Shameful.

    I've found this cuckoldry so inexplicable on the part of Matthew that I've sometimes suspected that Matthew himself is behind the Croix accounts in order to generate activity on the forum.
    I will be completely 100% honest here: If that turns out to be true, it'll be very hard to justify being here any longer.
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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #17 on: Today at 01:28:47 PM »
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  •  Outside of that, he will always be here. It appears that Matthew cannot/will not ban him forever.
    Bravo! You hit the nail on the head :fryingpan: That is exactly right, as has been said multiple times already. It is impossible (read: not able to occur) to "ban him forever" while still allowing CathInfo to operate as it always has. There is nothing (nada, zip, zero, zilch) that can be done to prevent any particular person from joining the forum aside from closing the forum indefinitely to new accounts, or to somehow physically (kidnap? murder? Have them committed?) prevent someone from accessing the internet. Which of the solutions would you prefer? :cowboy:
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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #18 on: Today at 02:02:18 PM »
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  • Bravo! You hit the nail on the head :fryingpan: That is exactly right, as has been said multiple times already. It is impossible (read: not able to occur) to "ban him forever" while still allowing CathInfo to operate as it always has. There is nothing (nada, zip, zero, zilch) that can be done to prevent any particular person from joining the forum aside from closing the forum indefinitely to new accounts, or to somehow physically (kidnap? murder? Have them committed?) prevent someone from accessing the internet. Which of the solutions would you prefer? :cowboy:
    Except we already know he has at least one active account now (C6H12O6).  So, this isn't just about not being "able" to ban him. :fryingpan: 

    The choice is being made to let him stay even though he has broken the rules ad nauseum.  And it appears this cycle will continue ad nauseum.

    So, no, your post doesn't really apply here.

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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #19 on: Today at 02:03:07 PM »
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  • Yes, Croix makes a mockery of CathInfo here, since he's turned Matthew's bannings into a complete joke ... where they laugh about his coming back repeatedly.  Shameful.

    I've found this cuckoldry so inexplicable on the part of Matthew that I've sometimes suspected that Matthew himself is behind the Croix accounts in order to generate activity on the forum.
    Ladislaus, you're in IT.  How do you not know how VPNs work?  These make it impossible to ban someone.


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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #20 on: Today at 02:19:43 PM »
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  • Except we already know he has at least one active account now (C6H12O6).  So, this isn't just about not being "able" to ban him. :fryingpan: 

    The choice is being made to let him stay even though he has broken the rules ad nauseum.  And it appears this cycle will continue ad nauseum.

    So, no, your post doesn't really apply here.
    You and I must have different definitions of "cannot".

    And this is not the first time you've implied that you believe there is some way to permanently prohibit someone from using the forum:

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    Whatever happened to this supposed fix?:

    WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat banned - page 1 - Computers, Technology, Websites - Catholic Info

    Is Croix really that much smarter than Matthew?

    At this point the people complaining are almost more annoying than Croix. You act as if the rules of the forum (which only Matthew knows in their entirety), are set in stone and cannot be changed or ignored by the owner of the forum, who created them, at will. Get over it
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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #21 on: Today at 02:24:30 PM »
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  • You and I must have different definitions of "cannot".

    And this is not the first time you've implied that you believe there is some way to permanently prohibit someone from using the forum:

    At this point the people complaining are almost more annoying than Croix. You act as if the rules of the forum (which only Matthew's knows in their entirety), are set in stone and cannot be changed or ignored by the owner of the forum, who created them, at will. Get over it
    Actually, yes.  "Cannot" is not always the same definition as "not being able to".  Besides I was very clear that this was a matter of can't/won't.  Not just "can't".

    And yes, Matthew can ignore (even repeatedly) members that break the rules as owner.  But don't tell me that doesn't make a mockery of said rules.

    As for the bolded, well then maybe you should follow your own advice and ignore us.  ;)

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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #22 on: Today at 02:35:29 PM »
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  • Actually, yes.  "Cannot" is not always the same definition as "not being able to". 

    And yes, Matthew can ignore (even repeatedly) members that break the rules as owner.  But don't tell me that doesn't make a mockery of said rules.

    As for the bolded, well then maybe you should follow your own advice and ignore us.  ;)
    Not sure what you are talking about at this point. 

    You said:
    It appears that Matthew cannot/will not ban him forever.
    I replied to the "cannot" part, affirming that is indeed the case.

    Your now distinction between "cannot" and "not being able to" is irrelevant, as you originally did not say "able to" and I did not reply to your saying "able to"..because you didn't say that, you said "cannot". 

     "Will not" implies Matthew is choosing not to ban him, I've already said that's his choice. His rules, not yours. He can make or change rules, we cannot. "No ban circuмventing" could have been a rule a month ago, and it could no longer be a rule today. What do you not understand about this?
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #23 on: Today at 02:44:00 PM »
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  • "Will not" implies Matthew is choosing not to ban him, I've already said that's his choice. His rules, not yours. He can make or change rules, we cannot. "No ban circuмventing" could have been a rule a month ago, and it could no longer be a rule today. What do you not understand about this?
    And I already said sure he "can" do that, but by doing so he makes a mockery of said rule.  If one minute he extols how important his rule of not allowing multiple accounts is, but then another minute decides he's going to allow it for someone who has repeatedly broken it, then why should anyone take the rule seriously? 

    I think you and I are done here.

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    « Reply #24 on: Today at 03:15:51 PM »
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  • And I already said sure he "can" do that, but by doing so he makes a mockery of said rule.  If one minute he extols how important his rule of not allowing multiple accounts is, but then another minute decides he's going to allow it for someone who has repeatedly broken it, then why should anyone take the rule seriously? 

    I think you and I are done here.
    Would you mind posting the official CathInfo forum rules (up-to-date as of 6/27/2025)? You are in possession of the rules list, right? :popcorn:

    I think now you and I are done here
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: White Tribalism: The Key To Fixing Our Problems
    « Reply #25 on: Today at 03:24:41 PM »
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  • Would you mind posting the official CathInfo forum rules (up-to-date as of 6/27/2025)? You are in possession of the rules list, right? :popcorn:

    I think now you and I are done here
    Ha, well there aren't any official, posted rules (at least not for many years), but I'm guessing you knew that already.

    But there is no need in this case.  Here are Matthew's own words just a month ago when he banned Croix:

    I banned WWSC for holding multiple accounts on CathInfo. He had another account, "phillips"
    It's one of those things I have ZERO TOLERANCE for.
    Those are the kind of "games" that ruin a forum. It basically turns the entire forum into the "Anonymous forum" -- where you can argue with yourself, make it look like your opinion is more popular, allow you to misbehave without "tarnishing" your main account, etc.

    I won't allow any of those things on CathInfo.

    Just think of all the things that might have annoyed you about WWSC, and all the things I let him get away with -- then consider that holding multiple accounts is why I banned him.

    WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat banned - page 1 - Computers, Technology, Websites - Catholic Info

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     And yet the "games" continue.

    Why are you still engaging when you should follow your own advice and just ignore me?  :laugh1:


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    « Reply #26 on: Today at 03:31:46 PM »
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  • Blah blah
    Already well aware of that post. There is certainly something to distinguish between "holding multiple accounts" and creating a new account after being banned..but we don't really need to get into that. What I am in need of is the current rules list, could you help a brother out?
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    « Reply #27 on: Today at 03:34:49 PM »
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  • Already well aware of that post. There is certainly something to distinguish between "holding multiple accounts" and creating a new account after being banned..but we don't really need to get into that. What I am in need of is the current rules list, could you help a brother out?
    And there is no evidence that Matthew has searched for multiple accounts.  I suspect there are at least a few out there that could be investigated.  But again, the choice is to let him back.

    Still bothering rather than ignoring I see. :laugh1:

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    « Reply #28 on: Today at 03:42:24 PM »
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  • Except we already know he has at least one active account now (C6H12O6).  So, this isn't just about not being "able" to ban him. :fryingpan: 

    The choice is being made to let him stay even though he has broken the rules ad nauseum.  And it appears this cycle will continue ad nauseum. 
    Matthew has banned Croix twice in the last 2 months.  But he just creates another account.  How is this possible?  Because of VPNs, and how the internet works.  If you're savvy enough, you can be un-bannable.  Has nothing to do with Matthew being "soft" on the rules.  It's due to the internet.

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  • And there is no evidence that Matthew has searched for multiple accounts.  I suspect there are at least a few out there that could be investigated.  But again, the choice is to let him back.

    Still bothering rather than ignoring I see. :laugh1:
    I wasn't aware Matthew needs to inform you before, during, or after taking some administrative action. That's my mistake.
    If I said anything about "ignoring" someone, it was in reference to Croix. I think we shouldn't feed trolls. Now, I don't think you're a troll..just a little silly :smirk:
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.