[Gray2023]

You say "abandon" as if white people have some sort of obligation to take care of them. The same white people getting robbed, assaulted, raped, and murdered while the government steals their money to give to the people doing these things. The violent behavior is not instigated, it's exacerbated. Yes, it is about race. Stop excusing violent criminals

I am not excusing their violent behavior, but it was white people who were money hungry that put the Africans in the US in the first place to be slaves.  It was the white man who set up the social service programs that made certain races fatherless.  You can't solve a problem if you don't look at the roots that caused it to progress that way in the first place.  Just separating races isn't going to solve anything.  And how would you like the separation to happen?  I am a minority in my neighborhood because I moved to where I could afford a house.  Should the police come in and take away my 7 acres and house because I am the wrong race for the neighborhood?

We need to hunker down on corruption, so people can naturally drift to communities that fit their needs.  Most likely that will look like segregation, but nobody can really make that happen until the government stops playing the races against each other.

[Godefroy]

I am not excusing their violent behavior, but it was white people who were money hungry that put the Africans in the US in the first place to be slaves.  It was the white man who set up the social service programs that made certain races fatherless.  You can't solve a problem if you don't look at the roots that caused it to progress that way in the first place.  Just separating races isn't going to solve anything.  And how would you like the separation to happen?  I am a minority in my neighborhood because I moved to where I could afford a house.  Should the police come in and take away my 7 acres and house because I am the wrong race for the neighborhood?

We need to hunker down on corruption, so people can naturally drift to communities that fit their needs.  Most likely that will look like segregation, but nobody can really make that happen until the government stops playing the races against each other.

The slave trade was very much in the hands of the "chosen" but leaving that aside, there was no slavery in California or New York or Detroit so the blacks arrived in these places poor very much like the whites. 
 
If the Japanese and Germans managed to recover after the destruction of WW2 within 20 years, there is no reason that a black person can't recover 150 years after the end of the slavery. The only explanation possible for their behavior is a genetic one.

[Gray2023]

The slave trade was very much in the hands of the "chosen" but leaving that aside, there was no slavery in California or New York or Detroit so the blacks arrived in these places poor very much like the whites.
 
If the Japanese and Germans managed to recover after the destruction of WW2 within 20 years, there is no reason that a black person can't recover 150 years after the end of the slavery. The only explanation possible for their behavior is a genetic one.

The Government of Germany was run by the Germans.  The government of Japan was run by the Japanese.  The government of California or New York or Detroit, though highly populated by poor blacks were run by Whites.  It is not the same comparison.  

I am not sure how we are suppose to correct the problem. How does a black person recover if the government isn't their own people? 

Maybe their is a little genetics involved, but I don't believe it is the only explanation possible.

[WorldsAway]

I am not excusing their violent behavior, but it was white people who were money hungry that put the Africans in the US in the first place to be slaves.  It was the white man who set up the social service programs that made certain races fatherless. 

Jews are not white  And any whites that were involved, so what? Nothing that was done 200 years ago excuses black crime today

You can't solve a problem if you don't look at the roots that caused it to progress that way in the first place.

You're right. One of those "roots" being that blacks are more prone to violent behavior than white people

Just separating races isn't going to solve anything.

I don't think what I'm saying is getting through to you. Any socio-economic factors aside, blacks still commit violent crime at a rate much higher than white people. Whites in the same situation as blacks commit violent crime with much less frequency. Blacks separated from whites would greatly reduce the number of white people being robbed, assaulted, raped, and murdered.

And how would you like the separation to happen? I am a minority in my neighborhood because I moved to where I could afford a house. Should the police come in and take away my 7 acres and house because I am the wrong race for the neighborhood?

How would I like to see it happen? Forced segregation. What can be done about it right now, though, is whites creating their own communities

We need to hunker down on corruption, so people can naturally drift to communities that fit their needs. Most likely that will look like segregation, but nobody can really make that happen until the government stops playing the races against each other.

Whites only communities are whites naturally choosing whom they want to live around. It's happening right now. No need to "drift". There are white people making conscious decisions to join whites only communities. That is a choice with real, observable results..unlike voting (possibly save for local elections)

[Godefroy]

The Government of Germany was run by the Germans.  The government of Japan was run by the Japanese.  The government of California or New York or Detroit, though highly populated by poor blacks were run by Whites.  It is not the same comparison. 

I am not sure how we are suppose to correct the problem. How does a black person recover if the government isn't their own people?

Maybe their is a little genetics involved, but I don't believe it is the only explanation possible.

Haiti has been independent since around 1800 and run by local people. How are they doing?

Ethiopia wasn't colonised until a brief occupation by Italy in 1935. How are they doing? 

[Miseremini]

This kind of talk just makes me feel like I have no culture to belong to.

Each culture has distinct beliefs, morals, traditions etc. once they become established in a specific region.
Until recently, Caucasians (from many different countries) in North America had established a new culture specific to North America.  In other words they blended their previous cultures to suit everyone.
H O W E V E R, although other races and cultures admired and wanted what we were able to establish, they came but refused to blend.  Look at any city...they congregate with their own kind even refusing to learn the language except for "give me".
The descendants of the slaves have had a couple centuries to join the blend but not only do they refuse our culture they don't even practice the culture of their forefathers.  They merely exist...and not always by acceptable means.
I don't mean to be unkind, but if you feel like you have no culture, it's up to you to decide which beliefs, morals traditions etc. form a culture you want to belong to.
Various cultures of the world are millenia old,  North American culture is only a couple hundred years old.  And yes it was formed by Caucasians because it was mainly Caucasians who built the country we now have.

[Gray2023]

The descendants of the slaves have had a couple centuries to join the blend but not only do they refuse our culture they don't even practice the culture of their forefathers.  They merely exist...and not always by acceptable means.

This is a very narrow view.  People respond to how they are treated.  I have no trouble getting along or living with others who do not match my skin color and I have been doing it for years.  The neighborhoods I walk in are not scary or run down and the majority of the people here are black.  I do not believe that my pocket of North America is the only exception.  

I don't mean to be unkind, but if you feel like you have no culture, it's up to you to decide which beliefs, morals traditions etc. form a culture you want to belong to.
Various cultures of the world are millenia old,  North American culture is only a couple hundred years old.  And yes it was formed by Caucasians because it was mainly Caucasians who built the country we now have.

I have the Catholic culture.  When I said I have no culture, I meant I do not have a single race culture.  I was thinking about if people got their way and forced to live with their like colored skinned, I would not like living with all white people, because that has never been what I have known.  I don't object to others wanting that, but I don't want the choice forced on me.

What I have learned in my life is that most people mirror the ones they are around.  So if you are a practicing Catholic and show charity as God intended, then the color of people's skin, doesn't really matter.

If you really want society to correct itself, then bringing God back to the masses is a better solution.  

[Miseremini]

This is a very narrow view.


I have the Catholic culture.  When I said I have no culture, I meant I do not have a single race culture. 

I disagree.  It's just every day observation.

I wasn't referring to Catholic culture and fully understood you were referring to race culture.

If most people thought about it seriously, I think they'd find they are not against any race or skin colour  but object strongly to the culture of the people who just happen to have skin of a different colour.  That's where the" term culture shock" comes in.  Society just pushes the term racist so every goes along. As close as race and culture are they really are two different things, that's why people can get along with some people of another race and not with others of the same race.   It's really culture.

[Gray2023]

Whites only communities are whites naturally choosing whom they want to live around. It's happening right now. No need to "drift". There are white people making conscious decisions to join whites only communities. That is a choice with real, observable results..unlike voting (possibly save for local elections)

OK, but are the people who are white and don't want to live in a white only community going to be looked down upon because they think differently? 

[Gray2023]

The descendants of the slaves have had a couple centuries to join the blend but not only do they refuse our culture they don't even practice the culture of their forefathers.  They merely exist...and not always by acceptable means.

I disagree.  It's just every day observation.

Because the US is soooo big, people in different locations have different observations.  From my observations, I do see blacks that have blended into society.  The quiet black neighborhoods are not going to show up in the media, but they do exist. 

[WorldsAway]

OK, but are the people who are white and don't want to live in a white only community going to be looked down upon because they think differently?

Why are you asking me this?

[Gray2023]

Why are you asking me this?

I asked you because of this statement below.

How would I like to see it happen? Forced segregation. What can be done about it right now, though, is whites creating their own communities

Whites only communities are whites naturally choosing whom they want to live around. It's happening right now. No need to "drift". There are white people making conscious decisions to join whites only communities. That is a choice with real, observable results..unlike voting (possibly save for local elections)

I guess it gives me the impression that if you are white then you are more important and you have to save that importance because it is being destroyed.  

But I don't believe my importance lies in the color of my skin.  I believe that only reason I am alive is to know, love, and serve God in this world and be happy with him forever in Heaven.

Hence my question below.

OK, but are the people who are white and don't want to live in a white only community going to be looked down upon because they think differently?

[Pax Vobis]

OK, but are the people who are white and don't want to live in a white only community going to be looked down upon because they think differently?

You're an adult and you still care about what other people think?  Some people like blue, some people hate blue and only like red.  Some people hate both blue and red.  Who cares?

[Gray2023]

You're an adult and you still care about what other people think?  Some people like blue, some people hate blue and only like red.  Some people hate both blue and red.  Who cares?

Colors are different than people, but go ahead and misinterpret what I said.  The slippery slope of deciding the "goodness" of people based on the color of one's skin doesn't sound like a Catholic thing to do.  And if people are starting these communities out of fear of becoming extinct, then I guess they don't trust God. But that is only my opinion and nobody has to agree with it.

[alaric]

Get rid of  commie, atheist/satanic jews running your govt and your racial problems go away.

As for those "white" communities, I don't see no doctrine in Church which denies freedom of association or protecting your families from a savage group of people brainwashed and indoctrinated by a evil, manipulating, satanic cult hell bent on destroying every culture it has sunk it's fangs into. We have not only a right, but a duty to seperate ourselves and families the best we can from this madness.