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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Anti-Catholic Law
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 06:17:46 PM »
Quote from: Jaynek on January 13, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Our very own "Cartago delenda est".   :laugh1:

LOL, yes, "poche delendus est"

or

"Ceterum censeo poche delendum esse"
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Offline claudel

Re: The Anti-Catholic Law
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2020, 04:22:13 AM »
The attacks on poche have long since ceased to be amusing or even remotely proportionate to the charges brought against him. The absence of proportionality calls into question the very Catholicity of poche's attackers, in that we Catholics are called upon to demonstrate temperance even in righteous anger—and the present anger slid from righteous to redundant several weeks ago.

Even in the Jew-corrupted criminal "justice" system, the defendant still has the right to object to being browbeaten, and the court is obliged to sustain the objection. Similarly, it's well past time that poche's attackers, instead of ceaselessly rehashing old charges, presented some fresh ones* before they returned to pummeling the guy about the head and shoulders.

I am willing to bet that before much longer, this nonstop piling-on will begin to win poche a considerable number of sympathizers. Even pagan hearts can be touched by disproportionate abuse, and the many commenters here who are anything but pagan can't be expected to stay silent indefinitely.**

Finally, with reference to the widespread clamor for poche's banning, a tip of the hat to Matthew for refusing to bend the knee to one of modernity's leading false gods, appeal to the will of the people. Agree with him or not—it's hardly a secret that I frequently don't—he owns the site, and we who comment can do so solely because he lets us. No one is denied the courtesy of expressing a respectful wish, but enlightened self-interest suggests that it is unwise to strain courtesy to the breaking point.
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*Apropos which, I understand that reports of poche's dining habits have driven the leading association of French chefs to petition the World Court to imprison poche for life in Fortress McDonald.
**I plead guilty as charged to giving him a very rare up-thumb for this interesting OP.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: The Anti-Catholic Law
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 04:52:35 AM »
Quote from: claudel on January 14, 2020, 04:22:13 AM
The attacks on poche have long since ceased to be amusing or even remotely proportionate to the charges brought against him. The absence of proportionality calls into question the very Catholicity of poche's attackers, in that we Catholics are called upon to demonstrate temperance even in righteous anger—and the present anger slid from righteous to redundant several weeks ago.

Even in the Jew-corrupted criminal "justice" system, the defendant still has the right to object to being browbeaten, and the court is obliged to sustain the objection. Similarly, it's well past time that poche's attackers, instead of ceaselessly rehashing old charges, presented some fresh ones* before they returned to pummeling the guy about the head and shoulders.

I am willing to bet that before much longer, this nonstop piling-on will begin to win poche a considerable number of sympathizers. Even pagan hearts can be touched by disproportionate abuse, and the many commenters here who are anything but pagan can't be expected to stay silent indefinitely.**

Finally, with reference to the widespread clamor for poche's banning, a tip of the hat to Matthew for refusing to bend the knee to one of modernity's leading false gods, appeal to the will of the people. Agree with him or not—it's hardly a secret that I frequently don't—he owns the site, and we who comment can do so solely because he lets us. No one is denied the courtesy of expressing a respectful wish, but enlightened self-interest suggests that it is unwise to strain courtesy to the breaking point.
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*Apropos which, I understand that reports of poche's dining habits have driven the leading association of French chefs to petition the World Court to imprison poche for life in Fortress McDonald.
**I plead guilty as charged to giving him a very rare up-thumb for this interesting OP.
Oh, claudel, no need to worry.  Poche won another round with his most vicious attacker banned....again. He clearly doesn't need your defense.  His subterfuge will continue. 
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Offline claudel

Re: The Anti-Catholic Law
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2020, 06:23:48 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on January 14, 2020, 04:52:35 AM

Oh, claudel, no need to worry.  Poche won another round with his most vicious attacker banned....again. He clearly doesn't need your defense.  His subterfuge will continue.

I was not defending poche, 2Vermont. Rather, I was defending what I construe as a Catholic principle. I didn't expect universal applause for so doing.

It is true, however, that I don't consider poche a threat to the Faith in any way. Look at it thus: How many people who come to this site, whether as regular or occasional commenters or as interested lurkers, are likely to be so young or so immature as to be scandalized by anything he writes? I think that it is hardly likely that he is in proximate danger of having to consider a millstone around his neck accompanied by a drop to the bottom of the Mariana Trench in preference to the most extreme torments on hell's bill of fare.

As for the banning, I am surprised to learn of it. Thank you for the information. For the record, I thought well of Mark 79 from the get-go, and I told him so on several occasions. I sincerely regret his banning. Nor would I ever call his attacks on poche vicious. Instead, I would say that they were forthright and honestly meant but, as my earlier comment suggested, perhaps pressed too long.

Surely one man can disagree somewhat with another about such a minor matter and still characterize himself as an admirer!
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Offline poche

Re: The Anti-Catholic Law
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 12:18:52 AM »
Another attack on freedom of religion and the seal of the confession;
As religious opposition both in and out of Utah mounts against a proposed bill that would require all allegations of child abuse to be reported to authorities — including those stated in religious confessionals — a powerful legislative leader has opposed the bill.
House Speaker Brad Wilson won’t support the bill in its current form, according to a statement he sent to the national Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.
“I have serious concerns about this bill and the effects it could have on religious leaders as well as their ability to counsel members of their congregation,” Wilson, R-Kaysville, said in the statement circulated by the Catholic League Tuesday. “I do not support this bill in its current form, and unless significant changes are made to ensure the protection of religious liberties, I will be voting against this bill.”

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/1/14/21065579/utah-bill-clergy-report-child-abuse-confessions-house-speaker-catholic-church-mormon-lds-diocese
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