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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
« on: October 23, 2023, 07:41:26 PM »
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  • I’ve been kind of depressed lately……


    Does anyone have any good Ambrose Moran stories to perk me up? :laugh1:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #1 on: October 23, 2023, 07:45:16 PM »
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  • Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #2 on: October 23, 2023, 07:49:54 PM »
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  • I hope this helps ...

    https://ambrosemoran.wordpress.com/


    :laugh1: I wonder what he’s been up to lately. Have you heard anything?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline Nadir

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #3 on: October 23, 2023, 08:30:36 PM »
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  • :laugh1: I wonder what he’s been up to lately. Have you heard anything?
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #4 on: October 23, 2023, 08:46:03 PM »
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  • :laugh1: I wonder what he’s been up to lately. Have you heard anything?

    I haven't heard anything since he excommunicated Father Pfeiffer ... probably one of the only reasonable things he's ever done.


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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #5 on: October 24, 2023, 12:04:09 AM »
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  • I haven't heard anything since he excommunicated Father Pfeiffer ... probably one of the only reasonable things he's ever done.
    It almost makes one wish he was a bishop.

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #6 on: October 24, 2023, 06:22:38 AM »
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  • Worst part is that the picture of Moran next to Cardinal Slipyj was photoshopped, and those letters from Ukrainian Catholic Bishop Borecky regarding Moran's consecration by Slipyj and Borecky are forgeries.  People contacted the Ukrainian Catholics, who denied any knowledge of Moran, and Moran's "consecration" does not appear on catholic-hierarchy.org at all.  At that point, nothing that he says can be believed, even if he did somehow photo-bomb certain events to make himself look legit (if many of those are not also photoshopped).

    Well, on second thought, the worst part is that Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko did not do some very simple due diligence to verify Moran's claims.  They could have easily called the Ukrainian Catholics themselves:  "Hello, there's a gentleman here by the name of Ambrose (aka William) Moran who claims to have been consecrated by Cardinal Slipyj and Bishop Borecky.  Do you have any record of this?"  Would have been a 5-minute phone call and then some time to allow them to research it and send a response.  Evidently the salvation of souls was not worth that much effort on their part.  He's possibly a valid bishop through some Orthodox lines, but after the fraud is exposed, none of that can be believed either.

    Offline TheRealMcCoy

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #7 on: October 24, 2023, 07:35:20 AM »
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  • Worst part is that the picture of Moran next to Cardinal Slipyj was photoshopped, and those letters from Ukrainian Catholic Bishop Borecky regarding Moran's consecration by Slipyj and Borecky are forgeries.  People contacted the Ukrainian Catholics, who denied any knowledge of Moran, and Moran's "consecration" does not appear on catholic-hierarchy.org at all.  At that point, nothing that he says can be believed, even if he did somehow photo-bomb certain events to make himself look legit (if many of those are not also photoshopped).

    Well, on second thought, the worst part is that Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko did not do some very simple due diligence to verify Moran's claims.  They could have easily called the Ukrainian Catholics themselves:  "Hello, there's a gentleman here by the name of Ambrose (aka William) Moran who claims to have been consecrated by Cardinal Slipyj and Bishop Borecky.  Do you have any record of this?"  Would have been a 5-minute phone call and then some time to allow them to research it and send a response.  Evidently the salvation of souls was not worth that much effort on their part.  He's possibly a valid bishop through some Orthodox lines, but after the fraud is exposed, none of that can be believed either.

    Cantatedomino did all the aforementioned and more to research Moran.  She presented the info to Pfeiffer and Hewko and they rejected it. 


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #8 on: October 24, 2023, 07:36:36 AM »
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  • Cantatedomino did all the aforementioned and more to research Moran.  She presented the info to Pfeiffer and Hewko and they rejected it.

    Yeah, and it doesn't require that much effort, as a simple phone call to the Ukrainian Catholic eparchy could confirm or deny Moran's story.  Moran later claimed that he was made a "secret" Archbishop ... but great claims require great proof.

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #9 on: October 24, 2023, 11:38:29 AM »
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  • One of my favorites is the “Cease and Desist” video:



    He means business!!!  
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #10 on: October 24, 2023, 11:41:19 AM »
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  • He should have been in pictures! He would have given Richard Burton a run for his money!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #11 on: October 25, 2023, 01:09:09 PM »
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  • He should have been in pictures! He would have given Richard Burton a run for his money!

    He's definitely an entertaining fellow, which explains why he's able to con people.  I almost wish that he had been a valid bishop.

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #12 on: October 25, 2023, 04:21:34 PM »
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  • He's definitely an entertaining fellow, which explains why he's able to con people.  I almost wish that he had been a valid bishop.

    He is seriously convincing. If someone didn’t due their due diligence, I could see how they would be convinced that he was legitimate. I wonder who the family is who is hosting him? I wonder if they are still under his influence?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #13 on: October 25, 2023, 04:32:42 PM »
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  • He is seriously convincing. If someone didn’t due their due diligence, I could see how they would be convinced that he was legitimate. I wonder who the family is who is hosting him? I wonder if they are still under his influence?
    Maybe in the tradosphere but when you are in his presence you KNOW he's not Catholic.  The man didn't know Latin in 2015.  I was at that Mass and the MC had to say the Credo for him.  Totally invalid sacrament.  We didn't receive communion and never returned after that.

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    Re: I’ve been kind of depressed lately……
    « Reply #14 on: October 25, 2023, 05:06:24 PM »
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  • Maybe in the tradosphere but when you are in his presence you KNOW he's not Catholic.  The man didn't know Latin in 2015.  I was at that Mass and the MC had to say the Credo for him.  Totally invalid sacrament.  We didn't receive communion and never returned after that.

    I know what you mean. He never fooled me from his first appearance on Cathinfo. Right from the beginning I knew his story was preposterous and I told Father Hewko to stay away from him.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?