The state steps in when other agencies cannot or will not....that said, most of $$ and hence, work should be at the lowest level-ie, county, state......

Obama/Romneycare would work better at state level, provider we had a sound economy/monetary system and the power/money mainly in state, as originally intended to be.

"national healthcare" works much better in smaller, more homogenous states (Denmark, Malta, Costa Rica for example)

same with food, other things.....

no sound monetary/economy, everyone suffers, eps charities and Churches.....my mother works as volunteer for CPO (Catholic Parish Outreach) and they are suffering badly......same w/Prots,etc.....all around a lot of growing poverty.

People that had good paying jobs, within a few months, reduced to food stamps,etc......abused women, homeless (most poverty caused by medical costs/bills)

Rerum Novarum Quad-Anno and other pre 1958 encyclicals all note the roll of state and its far different then the nromal left/right arguements.....

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It is an analogy with ill intent. It is not an uncommon analogy from gop politicians either. They compare feeding the humans to animals with a line at the end that expresses a political belief that expresses some stereotype about the poor and/or belief about how the poor should be treated.
They (including this one) are cruel, devaluing sentiments and not Catholic. We are called to feed the hungry not to devalue them.

It's done to gain political support, using TANF and food stamp recipients as a scapegoat.

Hmm I didn't know it was the government's job to get into the human welfare business.

I thought the Churches used to handle that?

normally, yes, but your statement somewhat rings with the Protestant/Calvinist/conservative stance, likely crept in over yrs by living in this terrible culture......


Read the CST encyclicals of Leo XIII-Pius XII.......very striking...

and not, not accusing you of protestantism, only a certain mindset that we all have had in the USA, some of us,  :reading: and   to overcome....

What parts are you specifically talking about?