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Traditional Catholic Faith => Funny Stuff for Catholics => Topic started by: MaterDominici on June 11, 2012, 02:03:48 AM
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$600 for a purse and wallet.
No wonder she needs food stamps.
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Not to be a wet blanket, but I'm suspicious that this might have been a made-up news story.
Republicans *love* to harp on the same things -- foreigners that don't speak English (or having to press "1" for English), undeserving Welfare recipients, and a few other things.
Not that those things don't bother me, but I usually complain about much larger, more important things that affect me and my children. Not mere nuisances.
For example, a woman having 6 children out of wedlock so she can receive more Welfare benefits is small-fry compared to the Federal Reserve Debt Money system which causes ALL U.S. DOLLARS to lose 12% of their value EVERY SINGLE YEAR. So I'm concerned with how to preserve my buying power, etc. and that's much more important to worry about than this or that welfare recipient.
Key point: THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT. It would just frustrate me, even if it were true. So I don't send e-mail forwards of this type around -- unlike hundreds of thousands of Republicans nationwide.
Of course, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat either. I don't buy the circus of the "2-party system" where you "vote the bums out" every 4 years, but nothing changes. It's a complete waste of time.
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Was going to comment that maybe purse/wallet were rentals
Some ladies' shops rent name brand designer purses
Get the look without the price, then return next month for new rental purse
But then saw $800 cash missing
Maybe now less likely to be rental purse
Or she could have robbed someplace
Or could be lie to squeeze out $800 from someone
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Maybe they were donated to her or she bought them second hand at a thrift store. Thrift store prices have gone up but you can often find name brand items for less than new item at Target or Wal-Mart costs. Sometimes it's just "used" but still has a long time of wear on it.
If it is true, what does $800 have to do with getting food stamps? Maybe she was getting a money order for a power bill, rent or she was sending money to a relative in need. Being a food stamp recipient does not mean someone does not have income or pay bills.
I agree with the republican spin, they absolutely love to spread the "welfare queen" propaganda and constantly scapegoat and spread lies about people on food stamps or TANF.
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I do believe this story. Yes, I know it's small stuff compared to the Federal Reserve but I was taught that it's pennies that make a dollar & to watch the small stuff.
I see people with nicer cars than mine, all the latest electronic gadgets known to man, flat screen TV, fancy footwear, etc. , you name it, AND a food stamp card. It makes me sick. True, there's nothing I can do, but I'm supporting these people & having a hard time even getting decent shoes! I see this everywhere.
I'm neither a Rep or a Dem also. This country is too far gone now for anyone to save it save God Himself.
However, more & more cities in Cal. are being investigated because of fiscal irresponsibility so little by little some things are being done actually.
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I had to buy gallon of milk the other day
only one lane open
I only had one item and woman ahead had many
she didn't let me cut ahead
waited nearly 10 mins while she paid her stuff with stamps
she had fancy coach purse
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I do believe this story. Yes, I know it's small stuff compared to the Federal Reserve but I was taught that it's pennies that make a dollar & to watch the small stuff.
I see people with nicer cars than mine, all the latest electronic gadgets known to man, flat screen TV, fancy footwear, etc. , you name it, AND a food stamp card. It makes me sick. True, there's nothing I can do, but I'm supporting these people & having a hard time even getting decent shoes! I see this everywhere.
I'm neither a Rep or a Dem also. This country is too far gone now for anyone to save it save God Himself.
However, more & more cities in Cal. are being investigated because of fiscal irresponsibility so little by little some things are being done actually.
Ugh. Several years ago I tried to get a rent-controlled apartment through HUD, because I made minimum wage at my tech support job and couldn't really afford anything else. This complex charged rent based on your income, it was supposedly a little more fair than going through some greedy real estate corporation. Driving through the complex, I felt weird in my beat-up old '96 Jeep Cherokee SE- every darned resident had a shiny new car, not more than a couple years old, not a single one. I didn't get the apt- had "too much income." Maybe I should have spent more on my car...
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Submitted by Billy Fleming ( from I don't know where)
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to report distributing the greatest amount of free meals by food stamps ever.
Meanwhile the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals".
Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.
This ends today's lesson.
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I've seen this all over FB mixed in with the pro-life messages. How can Catholics compare feeding hungry humans to feeding wild animals and secondly criticizing them for reproducing?
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Tiffany, you completely misunderstand! It is the church's duty to feed the poor. The government's business is to run the affairs of state; to keep in check the bad guys so the good guys can go about their business of doing good (such as feeding the poor).
It is absolutely wrong for a government to take from me to give to others.
Haven't you noticed how the use of food stamps has greatly increased? The far-off big government can't monitor the program closely enough. The church is local & can do a better job.
Truly sad & incredible that people can't understand some truths.
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I did not completely misunderstand. That wording compares feeding humans to animals and criticizes those being fed.
The issue of who feeds the hungry if it should be the state or done privately is different.
Because the program recipients is increasing does not mean it is not monitored close enough.
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Like I said, you misunderstood. They used humor to drive home a point.
You mean that you have no problem with the government in charge of feeding people instead of the church & private charities?? Bread & circuses, right?
Wasn't it St. Paul that said 'he that will not work, let him also not eat'? or words to that effect.
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Thorn, you are completely right and Tiffany has misunderstood. She's barely capable of writing a coherent message, let alone comprehending what someone with sense is saying to her. She disregards criticism of herself as "far reaching."
Tiffany is wrapped up in promoting single motherhood along with other feminists on this forum. Of course she believes in entitlement programs. The next thing she will say is that unmarried women's fathers are also obligated to support their out of wedlock infants. I'm not sure that she even recognizes marriage as a sacrament.
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Well of course 'entitlement programs' can also be considered handing out bailouts and taxpayer money to big banks and corporations as well. But yes the sex, drugs, rock n' roll, and women's liberation of the 1960's has destroyed the American family. Now the revolutionaries demand we spend more and tax more to deal with the consequences of what they did to America.
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Thorn and Flannery,
You both fail to engage in a fair debate with Tiffany because you do not acknowledge her protestation of the comparison of feeding humans to animals. Putting the treatment of animals on a par with the treatment of humans is something that is commonly done by the PETA people and should be recognized by all good Catholics.
As a matter of fact, I have actually heard PETA people saying that animals should be treated better than humans since humans can care for themselves and animals cannot.
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Flannery,
In addition to my comment above, I must also come to Tiffany's defense against your uncharitable accusation and false assumption that she would not recognize marriage as a sacrament. I fail to see how you came to that conclusion.
You, yourself are the one who is far-reaching to suggest that this Catholic woman would not recognize a sacrament of the Church. By jumping ahead to such an outlandish assumption, you show that you do not understand the general rules of a fair debate. In my opinion when one debater attacks the moral character of another debater with an accusation that has nothing to do with the actual debate, any further debating by the accuser holds little or no weight since he has then lost credibility.
I suggest that you apologize to Tiffany for accusing her of heresy, since if someone were not to recognize a sacrament of the Church that person would certainly be in heresy.
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Ora Pro Me - thank you for your comments. When a woman consistently supports and encourages single motherhood on a traditional Catholic forum, it naturally follows that her respect for marriage as a sacrament would be called into question. Whether or not that makes her a heretic, I defer to one of the men on the forum who are better informed than I am. I hadn't considered her as a heretic (you mentioned it). I would rather speak up against her than allow her to lead other young women on this forum into the trap of single motherhood - it should be condemned rather than condoned and flaunted. I don't see that any apology is called for from me.
If you want to be lumped in with the feminists on this forum by defending them, that is your prerogative. I will take a stand against them.
And I will assert that Tiffany has failed to recognize the irony of Thorn's post about animals. Thorn has quoted St. Paul eloquently. Tiffany brought reproductive rights into the discussion.
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Flannery,
If a Catholic does not recognize a Sacrament of the Church, that person is not a Catholic. That person would be in heresy would he/she not? Your assumption and accusation that Tiffany would not recognize Marriage as a Sacrament of the Church is certainly the same thing as calling her a heretic.
Your accusation is certainly very serious, entirely inappropriate, uncharitable and extremely disrespectful to a fellow Catholic. In my book, you certainly owe her a sincere apology but if you are not prepared to do so, then just please go away.
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Flannery this is the second time you have twisted things and made up things about me. I'm not going to bite the bait and defend myself. It's crazy.
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For Pete's sake you guys - I merely posted a humorous clipping that spoke a lot of truth. No debate necessary. I have no intention on debating Tiffany as it would be useless as I really don't think she'd get the point, being as she failed to get the first point. I've not read much of Tiffany's posts, but the few I did read, I wanted to post back on the homeschooling post of hers to tell her as kindly as possible to refrain from further posting until she got a little more wisdom under her belt as she was making trads look embarrassing. I know that sounds harsh & I'm going to be trounced on royally but I tell it like it is.
Flannery, thanks for your comments. I agree with you completely & don't know how she feels that you twisted things about her. She's the one posting all the nonsense & showing us her thoughts. She's doing a good job all by herself on the art of mixed-up thinking.
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Hey, Tiffany!
Have you ever told your boy that his room is a pigpen?
That your hubby is strong as an ox?
Your daughter was proud as a peacock?
Your neighbor cackles like a hen?
The baby was as quiet as a mouse?
The children were playing 'possum?
Do you call your children 'kids'? Or told them to stop monkeying around?
Do you know someone that's as stubborn as a mule?
Know someone who's a jackass?
Does your grandmother eat like a bird?
Ever know a rat? Or a louse?
How 'bout a woman who walks like a cow?
Have your children parroted something you've said?
Ever seen anyone as big as an elephant?
Was your grandfather a wise old owl?
Well shame on you for comparing your family & friends to animals!!!!!
PS: We talk like this because we're all part of the animal kingdom!
There, Ora, I 'splained to her. End of debate.
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Hmmm - let's see here. Tiff hasn't been on in awhile & I have had 1 ignore for the longest time. This morning I still had 1 ignore. Then late morning Tiff is now back & no one has replied to my latest post here AND I now have 2 ignores. Just coincidence or did Tiff have a tiff? Inquiring mind would love to know!
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It is an analogy with ill intent. It is not an uncommon analogy from gop politicians either. They compare feeding the humans to animals with a line at the end that expresses a political belief that expresses some stereotype about the poor and/or belief about how the poor should be treated.
They (including this one) are cruel, devaluing sentiments and not Catholic. We are called to feed the hungry not to devalue them.
It's done to gain political support, using TANF and food stamp recipients as a scapegoat.
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Tiffany,
You seem to object to this “analogy” because it doesn’t advance your feminist viewpoints of the government supporting single motherhood.
Why did you bring reproduction into this discussion? Because it struck a nerve that out-of-wedlock infants (and their mothers) not be entitled to a check from the government?
One good sign of a feminist is one who takes everything literally and cannot comprehend humor. You’ve already demonstrated your feminist thinking with your support and encouragement of illegitimate children, even going so far as to provide instructions on how financial support can be obtained...through entitlement programs or obligations from the nearest male relative of the mother (this is never a husband in your arguments).
Why is it offensive to use animals or plants for that matter as metaphors? How is that “devaluing” human life? Are you familiar with the 23rd Psalm? The parables in the New Testament?
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Flannery,
Have you nothing better to do on a Sunday then to spread public calumny against a fellow Catholic?
Tiffany has simply been showing Christian charity by trying to help a single mom here.
May I suggest that you pray for those whom you want to tear apart and ask Our Lady to help them and you?
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It is an analogy with ill intent. It is not an uncommon analogy from gop politicians either. They compare feeding the humans to animals with a line at the end that expresses a political belief that expresses some stereotype about the poor and/or belief about how the poor should be treated.
They (including this one) are cruel, devaluing sentiments and not Catholic. We are called to feed the hungry not to devalue them.
It's done to gain political support, using TANF and food stamp recipients as a scapegoat.
Hmm I didn't know it was the government's job to get into the human welfare business.
I thought the Churches used to handle that?
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Flannery,
Have you nothing better to do on a Sunday then to spread public calumny against a fellow Catholic?
Tiffany has simply been showing Christian charity by trying to help a single mom here.
May I suggest that you pray for those whom you want to tear apart and ask Our Lady to help them and you?
Hmm Flannery seems to be doing just fine to me. Personally it is refreshing to see one woman (I assume Flannery is a she) who has not fallen into the feminist clap-trap about being"equal with men" and "entitled to the same thing as men."
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Tiffany, you completely misunderstand! It is the church's duty to feed the poor.
Perhaps it is but look at the state of the church. To some sedes, it is comprised of a 100 people. To Novus Ordoites, it's still be and powerful but nowhere near its former glory.
The NO VII counter-church can't baptize more than that death and defection rate. It can't fulfill its primary mission of saving souls, let alone giving food and medical care to the world's poor.
I'm not a socialist but I don't like the idea of oligarchs having free reign while children go to bed hungry.
Until the church gets back on its feet, the state should do things like food stamps.
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The state steps in when other agencies cannot or will not....that said, most of $$ and hence, work should be at the lowest level-ie, county, state......
Obama/Romneycare would work better at state level, provider we had a sound economy/monetary system and the power/money mainly in state, as originally intended to be.
"national healthcare" works much better in smaller, more homogenous states (Denmark, Malta, Costa Rica for example)
same with food, other things.....
no sound monetary/economy, everyone suffers, eps charities and Churches.....my mother works as volunteer for CPO (Catholic Parish Outreach) and they are suffering badly......same w/Prots,etc.....all around a lot of growing poverty.
People that had good paying jobs, within a few months, reduced to food stamps,etc......abused women, homeless (most poverty caused by medical costs/bills)
Rerum Novarum Quad-Anno and other pre 1958 encyclicals all note the roll of state and its far different then the nromal left/right arguements.....
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It is an analogy with ill intent. It is not an uncommon analogy from gop politicians either. They compare feeding the humans to animals with a line at the end that expresses a political belief that expresses some stereotype about the poor and/or belief about how the poor should be treated.
They (including this one) are cruel, devaluing sentiments and not Catholic. We are called to feed the hungry not to devalue them.
It's done to gain political support, using TANF and food stamp recipients as a scapegoat.
Hmm I didn't know it was the government's job to get into the human welfare business.
I thought the Churches used to handle that?
normally, yes, but your statement somewhat rings with the Protestant/Calvinist/conservative stance, likely crept in over yrs by living in this terrible culture......
Read the CST encyclicals of Leo XIII-Pius XII.......very striking...
and not, not accusing you of protestantism, only a certain mindset that we all have had in the USA, some of us, :reading: and :pray: to overcome....
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It is an analogy with ill intent. It is not an uncommon analogy from gop politicians either. They compare feeding the humans to animals with a line at the end that expresses a political belief that expresses some stereotype about the poor and/or belief about how the poor should be treated.
They (including this one) are cruel, devaluing sentiments and not Catholic. We are called to feed the hungry not to devalue them.
It's done to gain political support, using TANF and food stamp recipients as a scapegoat.
Hmm I didn't know it was the government's job to get into the human welfare business.
I thought the Churches used to handle that?
normally, yes, but your statement somewhat rings with the Protestant/Calvinist/conservative stance, likely crept in over yrs by living in this terrible culture......
Read the CST encyclicals of Leo XIII-Pius XII.......very striking...
and not, not accusing you of protestantism, only a certain mindset that we all have had in the USA, some of us, :reading: and :pray: to overcome....
What parts are you specifically talking about?