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Youtube video of Bishop Fellay sermon
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  • Bishop Fellay: A Summary of Recent Events, SSPX-Rome 12-28-12 Ontario, Canada



    Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the SSPX, gives a sermon on recent events between the SSPX and Rome.
    The conference was given on Friday, December 28, 2012 at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in New Hamburg, Ontario, Canada.
    The sermon was given in church, which prevented any questions from being asked by the Faithful.
    Unfortunately, he leaves many questions unanswered:
    Was an apology given for his condescending response to the other 3 SSPX Bishops, who were justifiably concerned?
    Was Bishop Williamson re-instated in the Society?
    Did Bishop Fellay admit that he changed the official SSPX stance toward a "practical agreement" with Rome?
    Did Bishop Fellay admit that most if not all "Internet Rumors" turned out to be 100% true?
    As Bishop Fellay is apparently un-repentant for his own role in this Crisis, it would appear that the Crisis in the SSPX will continue for some time.
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    Youtube video of Bishop Fellay sermon
    « Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 07:23:15 PM »
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    "Things being what they are, I hope no disrespect to his office if I suggest that for the glory of God, for the salvation of souls, the inner peace of the fraternity, and his own eternal salvation, you would do better giving as Superior General expelling me.  May God's grace, the light and the strength to meet such famous act of humility and devotion to the common good of all." (Bishop Williamson, October 24, 2012, Open Letter to Bishop Bernard Fellay).

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    As Bishop Fellay is apparently un-repentant for his own role in this Crisis, it would appear that the Crisis in the SSPX will continue for some time.


    Yes, this "strength to meet such famous act of humility...", is but the single grace that could make him a sincere, repentant saint...in example of Saint Peter.

    I do pray for your conversion...before the whole world...to do the right thing.


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    Youtube video of Bishop Fellay sermon
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    Bishop Fellay: A Summary of Recent Events, SSPX-Rome

    12-28-12 Ontario, Canada



    Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the SSPX, gives a sermon on
    recent events between the SSPX and Rome.

    The conference was given on Friday, December 28, 2012 at Our Lady of
    Mount Carmel in New Hamburg, Ontario, Canada.

    The sermon was given in church, which prevented any questions from
    being asked by the Faithful.  Unfortunately, he leaves many questions
    unanswered:

    Was an apology given for his condescending response to the
    other 3 SSPX Bishops, who were justifiably concerned?


    For him to make an apology he would have to be willing to admit that
    what he had done was offensive to someone.  But he never admits to
    having done anything wrong.  Can you imagine what it must be like to
    be his confessor?  
    Kyrie eleison.

    The juxtaposition of prideful arrogance and a reputation for 'humility' is
    quite bewildering.  It's akin to Obama's ability to be re-elected in the face
    of his conspicuous sneering contempt for everything American.

    There is a laundry list of condescension, of which his well-known response
    to 'the three' is at the top, of course.

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    Was Bishop Williamson re-instated in the Society?


    Now that's a good one.  You heard it here first.  Send cards and letters
    to Menzingen, meekly requesting +W's reinstatement!  How many will it
    take?  A thousand?  Ten thousand?  A hundred thousand?  No problem...

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    Did Bishop Fellay admit that he changed the official SSPX stance
    toward a "practical agreement" with Rome?


    Now we're getting into the sticky nitty gritty.

    This could well explain all the erstwhile secrecy in spades....................
    What better explanation could there be, than a clandestine desire to
    obfuscate one's nefarious mission to close this interminable 'chapter' of
    the Society's Most Painful Exile from the marvelous Shangri-La of Ordinary
    Jurisdiction?  For IF he were to admit he had changed the official SSPX
    stance toward a "practical and impossible agreement with apostate
    Rome," THEN he would have to give up on his nefarious mission to close
    this interminable 'chapter' of the Society's Most Painful Exile, and THEN,
    what would he do with all that pent-up frustration latent and due to
    the fact
    of his still-unrequited clandestine desire to obfuscate same?  

    No, it's far simpler, far easier --> to go around enforcing SILENCE on
    anyone and everyone who knows anything at all!  Yeah, that's the ticket!

    Oh, which would also explain why I Accuse the Council! has conspicuously
    been allowed to go out of print and why there are no plans to reprint it
    and why nobody in any position of knowledge on this anomaly of right
    reason and normal merchandising policy has anything definitive to say
    about it:   "Because it's a matter of intelligence."  That's the reason that
    Tod Tamberg gave me on the phone in April of 1998 when The Tidings
    refused to print the story of the ritual Masonic assassination of Fr. Alfred
    Joseph Kunz in Dane, Wisconsin, but since it applies perfectly here, it
    seemed to be appropriate, since the wiles of satan span the centuries and
    10  "Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold
    this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before
    us" (Eccl. i).

    But not to worry:  we have the online version to read and study with all
    the power of electronic search engines and retrieval systems.  The mere
    thought that we are using the Internet to expose their dark and iniquitous
    machinations must keep the Menzingen-denizens awake at night.  

                                           HAHAHAHAHA

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    Did Bishop Fellay admit that most if not all "Internet Rumors"
    turned out to be 100% true?


    You do realize that he is hoping, and expecting, really, that you and I will
    simply forget about all the so-called Internet rumors
    that turned out to
    be true.  If he were a gangster from the Bronx he could be more honest...  

    For then he could just yell in your face:     FUGGEDDABOUDIT!!

    But he's not, and you can be sure that +Fellay isn't going to have Angelus
    Press publish a low-cost booklet compiling the Internet-rumors-vindicated,
    any more than he would make it a supplement to a reprint edition of:
    Msgr. Lefebvre:  "I Accuse the Council!" - with the all-new supplement -
    Msgr. Fellay:  "I Accuse the Rumors!"


    Naaaah.  Forget it.  In his own words, "Big fight:  Council!   No, Rumors!  
    No, Council!  No. Rumors!  No, Council!  No, Rumors!  No, Council!  No, ......"

    Think of it as the hermeneutic of discontinuity.....  HAHAHAHAHA

    In the meantime, we do have his most poignant observation from the
    depths of His Mushy-Mindness:  

    Quote from: Bishop Fellay in his 12-28-12 OLMC New Hamburg ON Conference

    I frankly, personally, I don’t think that these [this is] possible until the
    head is in our favor.  Because the fight is too, too heavy.  And the head,
    that means the Pope, must be absolutely convinced of the necessity of
    Tradition.  The fight might continue in the Church, but as long as we don’t
    have that, I don’t see really any concrete, serious possibility to go ahead,
    because it’s too dangerous, too dangerous.  We have many enemies,
    many enemies.  But look and that’s very interesting. Who, during
    that time, was the most opposed that the Church would recognize the
    Society?  The ENEMIES of the Church.  The Jews, the Masons, the
    [Modernists]!  The most opposed that the Society would be recognized
    as a Catholic:  the ENEMIES of the Church!  Interesting, isn’t it?

    Hey, speaking of Internet rumors:  two can tango in this game!

    Make no mistake about it:  



    Anyone who opposes the "practical and
    impossible agreement with apostate Rome"

        is an ENEMY OF THE CHURCH!!

    When it comes to Internet rumors,
    Bishop Fellay should definitely get the
    gold medal!  How can anyone in their
    right mind compete with that one??

    That's very interesting? Isn't it??




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    As Bishop Fellay is apparently un-repentant for his own role in this
    Crisis, it would appear that the Crisis in the SSPX will continue for some time.




    I really can't help but laugh at this Mexican stand-off going on.  Maybe
    "pablo" could shed a little light on this because he's "the Mexican" around
    here.  

    Fellay staunchly clings to his subjective fantasy that the "crisis" in the
    Church is something that he can solve by his achieving recognition from
    NewRome for the Society.  In fact, not infrequently it appears that to him,
    the 'crisis' in regards to the Society is one and the same with the fact that
    this pie-in-the-sky 'recognition' has not yet been achieved!  

    But along comes Matthew, with his disarming charm and Williamsoninan
    wit, saying that +Fellay is unrepentant for having contributed to this
    Crisis, and consequently the Crisis in the SSPX will continue for some
    time!

    In other words, the very word, "Crisis," has a different meaning to +Fellay
    than it does to the rest us.  For him, I may say, it is a 'crisis' that the Society
    is still not regularized -- after 40 years!  Unbelievable!  Isn't that interesting?
    Isn't it??


    [/sarcasm]

    Meanwhile, back at the Ranch, right-minded clerics can calmly sit at the
    'Round Table' and have a reasoned conversation without having to define
    that the Crisis in the Church is exemplified by the narrow-mindedness of
    the Superior General, for his obstinate incapacity, his invincible penchant
    to deny that apostate Rome is a snake pit of venom, a sewer of all heresy,
    a proverbial pit of perdition
    where the blind superior is about to lead the
    blind faithful forthwith into which they would fall!  I have found a most apt
    fact of history to illustrate this problem, but sorry, I don't have any pictures
    to display.  Maybe Incredulous or AntiFellayism can find one...

    Hold on to your seats.  This could be one helluva ride for some of you...

    In Latin, lilium -(i)i is a neuter noun of the second declension which, in
    botanical terms is a plant, a lily, which in Christian symbolism stands for
    virginity, purity, and when combined with cooperation with God's grace,
    effects great holiness, and the Roman virgin martyrs in their physical
    defenselessness, were objectively in the order of grace, more powerful
    than ancient Roman paganism.  But in Rome of that age, lilium had
    a military connotation as well.  For in the field of battle, where lilies were
    most rare, to be sure, to encounter lilium, or worse, for a soldier
    incidere in lilium
    was a terrible thing, because  A)  incidere in means to fall
    headlong into something, and  B)  lilium is a trench lined with sharp spikes.

    I'll leave you to put A and B together..................


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