Author Topic: Whos where (Read 12245 times)

Raphaela · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2016, 11:41:46 AM »

Quote from: JMacQ

Then whatever happened to Fr Iglesias? Fr de Merode who was put in charge in France? Fr Valan (India)? Frs Vargas, Bruhwiller, Zaby, Sauer, Avril, Raffali, Trauner, Vignalou, d'Agneau, N'dong?

For a start, Fr Iglesias is back in Spain and doesn't appear to be working for the Resistance. I don't know more than that. Fr Zaby and Fr Trauner (and Fr Weinzierl) are sedevacantists and want nothing to do with the Resistance, and Fr Sauer is sympathetic to them and works with them, I think.

The German Carmelites are sedevacantist (Fr Zaby is their chaplain).

wallflower · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2016, 03:43:35 PM »

Quote from: Don

plus the former SSPX priests in france and some of the former SSPX priests allied with them in other countries have given themselves a name and it aint 'the resistance' its the USML or Union sacerdotal marcel Lefebvre..... and others work with them and other people as well but are independent...... and others work with them and dont want to be associated with *the thing* called the resistance....... plus the name *the resistance* is associated with the kentucky fried chicken farm and hardly anyone wants to be associated with that....... too many problems in the name and trying to make a list under that name

I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.

Don · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2016, 04:26:10 PM »

Quote from: wallflower

I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.

i know what he means but he makes no sense... he laments or complains he's been giving money to a priest who he now finds is hostile to bishop williamson and the reason he's been giving this priest money is because a list was made on a forum in the past with this priests name on it...... and now he says he wants people to try to make a new list because he wants to give money to a priest or priests on a new list.... but the same thing will happen and wrong names will go on the list and he or someone else will give them money and then complain that they've been giving monet to priests hostile to bishop wuiliiamson.......... why doesn't he just ask bishop williamson to advise him who to give money to?

wallflower · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2016, 05:48:12 PM »

Quote from: Don

Quote from: wallflower
I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.
i know what he means but he makes no sense... he laments or complains he's been giving money to a priest who he now finds is hostile to bishop williamson and the reason he's been giving this priest money is because a list was made on a forum in the past with this priests name on it...... and now he says he wants people to try to make a new list because he wants to give money to a priest or priests on a new list.... but the same thing will happen and wrong names will go on the list and he or someone else will give them money and then complain that they've been giving monet to priests hostile to bishop wuiliiamson.......... why doesn't he just ask bishop williamson to advise him who to give money to?

I would be disappointed to find out my donations were going to someone who wasn't what I thought they were so I understand his desire to get some clarity.

I don't know for sure but my inclination is to think +Williamson doesn't have the time or interest in handing out a list of his "sanctioned" priests that we/you can donate to. It sounds more like a Fr. Pfeiffer move. One of the things we tend to dislike about Fr. Pfeiffer's method we are now going to ask +Williamson to do? Perhaps someone close to him could ask but I can't see him sending email lists of "good" priests and "blacklisted" priests to random people. I would feel odd even asking. Better to seek out the firsthand knowledge of a like-minded group I think.

Don · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2016, 06:03:59 PM »

good grief.... i give up..... bye.

Raphaela · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2016, 06:04:31 PM »

Yes, wallflower, I'm sure Bishop Williamson would do no such thing.

JMacQ · « **Reply #21 on:** April 07, 2016, 06:39:13 PM »

Thank you, Wallflower, you understand as everybody else should understand that His Excellency is not going to give anyone a list of friends and foes. He will not even discourage someone from helping financially those who attack him. That's the kind of man he is. Christlike.

The donation we use to send to a priest we thought was a friend of the bishop is NOT the point of this thread, is just one example among others of why it would be useful to know who has changed allegiance.

The Vienna Declaration and the Letter to the Faithful are obsolete, and by this I mean the signatories are not united as they once were. Those lists of priests were made public, it would be good to update them for the public.

This is why I consult the most reliable Catholic forum where I can find reliable answers from reliable members. For example, Centro and Christera know the situation in Mexico, Central and South America. Then there are a few French. What about Canada? Is Fr Girard (sp?) with Bishoo Williamson? And so forth.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2016, 06:53:56 PM »

If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/

As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?

For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.

I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.

In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.

So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)

Fidelis servus · « **Reply #23 on:** April 07, 2016, 10:54:02 PM »

Quote from: Don

plus the former SSPX priests in france and some of the former SSPX priests allied with them in other countries have given themselves a name and it aint 'the resistance' its the USML or Union sacerdotal marcel Lefebvre..... and others work with them and other people as well but are independent...... and others work with them and dont want to be associated with *the thing* called the resistance....... plus the name *the resistance* is associated with the kentucky fried chicken farm and hardly anyone wants to be associated with that....... too many problems in the name and trying to make a list under that name

We cannot say that USML is the new name of the resistance: USML is only a little part of it, a little try to organise Something between priests: but there are only 6 or 7 priests in it. there is also the SSPX MC of fr chazal, picot Valan, Suneel... and many independant priests...
In fact Resistance is the only name we have for the moment, and it's used in all the world: Europe, Brazil, all latino america countries

chrstnoel1 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 08, 2016, 02:04:23 AM »

Quote from: AMDGJMJ

If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/

As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?

For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.

I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.

In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.

So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)

You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:

NatusAdMaiora · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2016, 04:13:00 AM »

I would add, The Monastery of Santa Cruz ( Holy Cross Monastery , in Nova Friburgo, Brazil) with + Dom Thomas de Aquino.

Contribution can be sent to them: by Pay pall, and by Western Union.

The link is

http://beneditinos.org.br/para-nos-ajudar/

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NatusAdMaiora · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2016, 04:23:18 AM »

Sorry .... just Google beneditinos.org.br and click on PARA NOS AJUDAR

Wessex · « **Reply #27 on:** April 08, 2016, 04:35:52 AM »

All financial roads lead to Rome.

I contributed to the Society's London church.
I funded the Stronsay monastery.

Please can I have my money back?

AJNC · « **Reply #28 on:** April 08, 2016, 04:48:11 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

All financial roads lead to Rome.

I contributed to the Society's London church.
I funded the Stronsay monastery.

Please can I have my money back?

Fr Michael Mary/Gregory Sim would say that you gave the money to God and not to him. I did mention the donations issue to him after they took the road to "Rome", and that's the answer he gave me.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #29 on:** April 08, 2016, 07:17:09 AM »

Quote from: chrstnoel1

Quote from: AMDGJMJ
If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/

As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?

For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.

I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.

In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.

So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)

You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:

Austrasia??? I am confused...

Part of the old Frankish Empire???