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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: JMacQ on April 07, 2016, 06:37:59 AM
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Matthew, erase or modify at will, please.
I am so confused with all the changes of allegiance among the Resistance priests. Probably other folks are confused too. I have been looking around and it is now clear to me that Frs Pfeiffer, Hewko, Cardozo (Brazil), Ribas (Spain), Jacqumin (Belgium), Fuchs (Germany) are together against His Excellency Bishop Williamson. But then Frs Ruiz (Mexico) and Altamira (Columbia) are also against the Bishop and against the Fr Pfeiffer group. Then Frs Meramo, Grosso and Ceriani are home alone. Then in France there are also for and against but I don't read French and Google translates poorly.
Then whatever happened to Fr Iglesias? Fr de Merode who was put in charge in France? Fr Valan (India)? Frs Vargas, Bruhwiller, Zaby, Sauer, Avril, Raffali, Trauner, Vignalou, d'Agneau, N'dong?
Wouldn't it be helpful to put together a list of who's where clarifying the position/allegiance of all the priests who signed the Resistance declaration of Vienna and the Letter to the Faithful, and those who came later?
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I understand perfectly well His Excellency Bishop Williamson when he says that there are resistants, nor a Resistance.
What I am saying, and you undestood it perfectly well but couldn't help posting your smart aleckly reply, is that we have come to a point in which we don't know where some priests stand who used to support Bishop Williamson.
We have been sending a small contribution to Mexico every month and now we find out that the priest we were supporting is at odds with MY Bishop.
This is just one example of why I think it's useful, to say the least, to know who among the Resistance clergy (yeah, yeah, I know, there is no resistance, spare me a reply please) is for and who is against MY Bishop, the one I believe almost every member here loves and supports.
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Matthew, erase or modify at will, please.
I am so confused with all the changes of allegiance among the Resistance priests. Probably other folks are confused too. I have been looking around and it is now clear to me that Frs Pfeiffer, Hewko, Cardozo (Brazil), Ribas (Spain), Jacqumin (Belgium), Fuchs (Germany) are together against His Excellency Bishop Williamson. But then Frs Ruiz (Mexico) and Altamira (Columbia) are also against the Bishop and against the Fr Pfeiffer group. Then Frs Meramo, Grosso and Ceriani are home alone. Then in France there are also for and against but I don't read French and Google translates poorly.
Then whatever happened to Fr Iglesias? Fr de Merode who was put in charge in France? Fr Valan (India)? Frs Vargas, Bruhwiller, Zaby, Sauer, Avril, Raffali, Trauner, Vignalou, d'Agneau, N'dong?
Wouldn't it be helpful to put together a list of who's where clarifying the position/allegiance of all the priests who signed the Resistance declaration of Vienna and the Letter to the Faithful, and those who came later?
Well said,I agree completely.
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Thanks
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A list of priest would be most helpful,good idea.
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I understand perfectly well His Excellency Bishop Williamson when he says that there are resistants, not a Resistance.
What I am saying, and you undestood it perfectly well but couldn't help posting your smart aleckly reply, is that we have come to a point in which we don't know where some priests stand who used to support Bishop Williamson.
well i think its very simple... ask bishop williamson which priests hes working with if you want to give them financial support or whatever... same with bishop Faure and Dom Tomas.... no point asking folks on a message board who only know as much as you do.... ask the bishops or priests themselves if you really want to know
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Thank God for your immense wisdom, I never thought about that, to ask the bishop for a list of his friends and foes. What a crazy idea of mine coming here to ask for information.
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After reading these posts they themselves are confusing, after you figure out who is for who, next week it will be those who were for are now against them.
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And what's wrong with having a directory of independent priests? Sounds like a smart idea. I might even like to know where their Mass centers are and times of services.
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Well all I know is that BW annoyed the hell out of me....
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I thought it would be useful
I partly agree with you. A directory of independent Resistance-minded priests would be helpful. If I remember correctly, Mater put one together a while ago. Maybe it was just religious houses? Unfortunately I don't have the link anymore.
I don't know if noting the politics of who they agree with or disagree with would be helpful since, as independents, it might change too frequently or depend too much on hearsay to be accurate.
If you don't know any of the priests personally, it might be better to send your donations to the Bishop directly or to one of the main religious houses that is known to be on the same page, such as Avrille or the Monastery in Brazil.
There are few stable independent/Resistance chapels too (FL, TX and BC come to mind but there are more I think). They may need help as well.
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Why do you keep derailing the thread with platitudes? We all know what Resistance means, just as we all know what Traditional Catholic means. Imperfect names, yes, but we all know what we are referring to. Open a thread if you want but it would be good to keep this one going as it it or just erase it. No trolling please. Is that the word? And is it really so difficult to understand that there are some of us (now I know I'm not the only one, thanks Richard) interested in knowing who is who and where do they stand regarding Bishop Williamson. Because I will not support any priest who is against him.
"A platitude is a trite, meaningless, or prosaic statement, generally directed at quelling social, emotional, or cognitive unease."
"A troll disturbs or disrupts normal on-topic discussions"
"Derailing a thread is the act of throwing a thread in a discussion forum off topic, oftentimes so much so that the original discussion is unable to continue"
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plus the former SSPX priests in france and some of the former SSPX priests allied with them in other countries have given themselves a name and it aint 'the resistance' its the USML or Union sacerdotal marcel Lefebvre..... and others work with them and other people as well but are independent...... and others work with them and dont want to be associated with *the thing* called the resistance....... plus the name *the resistance* is associated with the kentucky fried chicken farm and hardly anyone wants to be associated with that....... too many problems in the name and trying to make a list under that name
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And is it really so difficult to understand that there are some of us (now I know I'm not the only one, thanks Richard) interested in knowing who is who and where do they stand regarding Bishop Williamson. Because I will not support any priest who is against him.
get off you backside then and ask him like i suggested before.... its the only way your gonna find out for sure
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This thread brings up a very good point:
We should all be EDUCATED VOTERS when it comes to what priests we vote for with our dollars.
Throwing dollars to the wind, giving money to every priest with a cassock is fine, if you're Bill Gates and you can give to ALL of them, or at least not neglect the worthy ones...
But for most people who make less than, say, $250,000 a year, to give to a less-worthy cause means you WON'T be able to give to some very worthy causes. That is the part that bothers me a lot. Watching bad priests waste money on playing war, while I watch good priests hindered in their Godly apostolates by lack of funds!
I'm constantly coming across worthy causes for a Traditional Catholic's alms.
http://www.cathinfo.com/resistance/
(That is supposed to be a neutral directory; about the only place on there I wouldn't advise supporting is Fr. Pfeiffer's group. That is because he has plenty to LIVE on, but he is trying to run a "war" with his money. He wastes it on things like War Councils in England and flying around the country trying to "defend his territory" by saying Mass at a protest location for 1 or 2 families he can sucker in)
Long story short, if you don't know much about a priest, I wouldn't blindly send him checks. Maybe write to him or call him first. If he won't give you the time of day, or is so private he won't even share his e-mail address/phone number with BENEFACTORS or potential benefactors, or he won't deign to call you back, then I guess he doesn't want your support very bad!
That would seem to be a great solution to this problem.
This is an issue that I believe strongly about. Too many people are supporting priests they shouldn't, and ignoring priests they should be supporting.
The most worthy priests should get the most support, so they can do lots of good. Yes, Fr. Pfeiffer is a priest. But there LOTS of other priests (faithful to Tradition and doing good work), and pretty much ANY OF THEM would be a better place to send your money. By sending to Fr. Pfeiffer, you fund the war against +Williamson, Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Voigt, etc. which is horrible. Better to send your money to those priests being attacked!
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Then whatever happened to Fr Iglesias? Fr de Merode who was put in charge in France? Fr Valan (India)? Frs Vargas, Bruhwiller, Zaby, Sauer, Avril, Raffali, Trauner, Vignalou, d'Agneau, N'dong?
For a start, Fr Iglesias is back in Spain and doesn't appear to be working for the Resistance. I don't know more than that. Fr Zaby and Fr Trauner (and Fr Weinzierl) are sedevacantists and want nothing to do with the Resistance, and Fr Sauer is sympathetic to them and works with them, I think.
The German Carmelites are sedevacantist (Fr Zaby is their chaplain).
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plus the former SSPX priests in france and some of the former SSPX priests allied with them in other countries have given themselves a name and it aint 'the resistance' its the USML or Union sacerdotal marcel Lefebvre..... and others work with them and other people as well but are independent...... and others work with them and dont want to be associated with *the thing* called the resistance....... plus the name *the resistance* is associated with the kentucky fried chicken farm and hardly anyone wants to be associated with that....... too many problems in the name and trying to make a list under that name
I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.
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I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.
i know what he means but he makes no sense... he laments or complains he's been giving money to a priest who he now finds is hostile to bishop williamson and the reason he's been giving this priest money is because a list was made on a forum in the past with this priests name on it...... and now he says he wants people to try to make a new list because he wants to give money to a priest or priests on a new list.... but the same thing will happen and wrong names will go on the list and he or someone else will give them money and then complain that they've been giving monet to priests hostile to bishop wuiliiamson.......... why doesn't he just ask bishop williamson to advise him who to give money to?
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I don't understand the hostility. You know what he means.
i know what he means but he makes no sense... he laments or complains he's been giving money to a priest who he now finds is hostile to bishop williamson and the reason he's been giving this priest money is because a list was made on a forum in the past with this priests name on it...... and now he says he wants people to try to make a new list because he wants to give money to a priest or priests on a new list.... but the same thing will happen and wrong names will go on the list and he or someone else will give them money and then complain that they've been giving monet to priests hostile to bishop wuiliiamson.......... why doesn't he just ask bishop williamson to advise him who to give money to?
I would be disappointed to find out my donations were going to someone who wasn't what I thought they were so I understand his desire to get some clarity.
I don't know for sure but my inclination is to think +Williamson doesn't have the time or interest in handing out a list of his "sanctioned" priests that we/you can donate to. It sounds more like a Fr. Pfeiffer move. One of the things we tend to dislike about Fr. Pfeiffer's method we are now going to ask +Williamson to do? Perhaps someone close to him could ask but I can't see him sending email lists of "good" priests and "blacklisted" priests to random people. I would feel odd even asking. Better to seek out the firsthand knowledge of a like-minded group I think.
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good grief.... i give up..... bye.
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Yes, wallflower, I'm sure Bishop Williamson would do no such thing.
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Thank you, Wallflower, you understand as everybody else should understand that His Excellency is not going to give anyone a list of friends and foes. He will not even discourage someone from helping financially those who attack him. That's the kind of man he is. Christlike.
The donation we use to send to a priest we thought was a friend of the bishop is NOT the point of this thread, is just one example among others of why it would be useful to know who has changed allegiance.
The Vienna Declaration and the Letter to the Faithful are obsolete, and by this I mean the signatories are not united as they once were. Those lists of priests were made public, it would be good to update them for the public.
This is why I consult the most reliable Catholic forum where I can find reliable answers from reliable members. For example, Centro and Christera know the situation in Mexico, Central and South America. Then there are a few French. What about Canada? Is Fr Girard (sp?) with Bishoo Williamson? And so forth.
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
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plus the former SSPX priests in france and some of the former SSPX priests allied with them in other countries have given themselves a name and it aint 'the resistance' its the USML or Union sacerdotal marcel Lefebvre..... and others work with them and other people as well but are independent...... and others work with them and dont want to be associated with *the thing* called the resistance....... plus the name *the resistance* is associated with the kentucky fried chicken farm and hardly anyone wants to be associated with that....... too many problems in the name and trying to make a list under that name
We cannot say that USML is the new name of the resistance: USML is only a little part of it, a little try to organise Something between priests: but there are only 6 or 7 priests in it. there is also the SSPX MC of fr chazal, picot Valan, Suneel... and many independant priests...
In fact Resistance is the only name we have for the moment, and it's used in all the world: Europe, Brazil, all latino america countries
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
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I would add, The Monastery of Santa Cruz ( Holy Cross Monastery , in Nova Friburgo, Brazil) with + Dom Thomas de Aquino.
Contribution can be sent to them: by Pay pall, and by Western Union.
The link is
http://beneditinos.org.br/para-nos-ajudar/
null (http://beneditinos.org.br/para-nos-ajudar/)
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Sorry .... just Google beneditinos.org.br and click on PARA NOS AJUDAR
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All financial roads lead to Rome.
I contributed to the Society's London church.
I funded the Stronsay monastery.
Please can I have my money back?
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All financial roads lead to Rome.
I contributed to the Society's London church.
I funded the Stronsay monastery.
Please can I have my money back?
Fr Michael Mary/Gregory Sim would say that you gave the money to God and not to him. I did mention the donations issue to him after they took the road to "Rome", and that's the answer he gave me.
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
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Priests who support the Resistance Bishops (Mexico and South America):
Fr. René Trincado (Mexico)
Fr. Andrés Zelaya OSB (Brazil)
Fr. Jahir Brito FBMV (Brazil)
Fr. Joaquim FBMV (Brazil)
Fr. Raphael Arizaga (Colombia)
Priests against the three bishops:
Fr. Altamira (Colombia)
Fr. Cardozo (Brazil) (He attended the Fr. PFeiffer's meeting in Wimbledon last week)
Fr. Hugo Ruiz (Mexico)
Fr. Vargas (I don't know his position)
If anyone needs the email of any of these priests, send me a PM
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Dear Cristera, this is exactly what I thing we need, thank you very much. Hopefully we can continue the list so that we know where to place today all the names we have heard and read of in the last three years.
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Priests who support the Resistance Bishops (Mexico and South America):
Fr. René Trincado (Mexico)
Fr. Andrés Zelaya OSB (Brazil)
Fr. Jahir Brito FBMV (Brazil)
Fr. Joaquim FBMV (Brazil)
Fr. Raphael Arizaga (Colombia)
Priests against the three bishops:
Fr. Altamira (Colombia)
Fr. Cardozo (Brazil) (He attended the Fr. PFeiffer's meeting in Wimbledon last week)
Fr. Hugo Ruiz (Mexico)
Fr. Vargas (I don't know his position)
If anyone needs the email of any of these priests, send me a PM
This is a great start! Anyone who knows of more good priests, please add on! :cheers:
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
Nadir is correct but frankly I think each country has a name and that is the one that should be used. I am sure when speaking of USA, we would not hear the Americas, or e.g. France would not be called Europe. I find it offensive.
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Wiki says:
Australasia, a region of Oceania, comprises Australia, New Zealand, the island of New Guinea, and neighbouring islands in the Pacific Ocean. Charles de Brosses coined the term (as French Australasie) in Histoire des navigations aux terres australes (1756).
Austrasia, as I understand it, is one of those words coined by Fr Chazal, to include AU, NZ and other places, including possibly Singapore, served by the priests. But don't quote me because I am not up to scratch on the Resistance, living in a too far flung region to attend.
Back to the subject in hand!
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
Obviously, AMDGJM is not from the eastern part of this planet, meaning Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Hence AUSTRASIA, short form for the countries mentioned, as Fr. Chazal puts it.
My friend NC (AJNC) is that really the comment of Nadir? Chazalism?? :confused1:
Wow! we have Fellyites, Pffeifferites, and now Chazalism. :facepalm: Can't wait to see more of the 'ites' and 'lism'. :popcorn:
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
Obviously, AMDGJM is not from the eastern part of this planet, meaning Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Hence AUSTRASIA, short form for the countries mentioned, as Fr. Chazal puts it.
My friend NC (AJNC) is that really the comment of Nadir? Chazalism?? :confused1:
Wow! we have Fellyites, Pffeifferites, and now Chazalism. :facepalm: Can't wait to see more of the 'ites' and 'lism'. :popcorn:
Hi Chrstnoel! Check out the comments of Nadir and Gail above. I think Fr Chazal would be flattered that a racy/catchy/new wordy style of English, written and spoken, has been named after him. It concerns language and not the cause, so no problem there.
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
Obviously, AMDGJM is not from the eastern part of this planet, meaning Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Hence AUSTRASIA, short form for the countries mentioned, as Fr. Chazal puts it.
My friend NC (AJNC) is that really the comment of Nadir? Chazalism?? :confused1:
Wow! we have Fellyites, Pffeifferites, and now Chazalism. :facepalm: Can't wait to see more of the 'ites' and 'lism'. :popcorn:
Hi Chrstnoel! Check out the comments of Nadir and Gail above. I think Fr Chazal would be flattered that a racy/catchy/new wordy style of English, written and spoken, has been named after him. It concerns language and not the cause, so no problem there.
Agree :cheers:
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If you want to be sure that your donations go to Bishop Williamson the best way to do that is through the St. Marcel Initiative: http://stmarcelinitiative.com/
As for which priests are connected with Bishop Williamson, the answer would be, any good ones. I think that it would be hard to make a list with all of them, but perhaps we could all add those we know here, and someone could compile that list?
For my part, I know that the priests at my chapel support him: Fr. Ringrose, Fr. Ortiz, and Fr. McMahon.
I believe that Fr. Collins from New York was also in good standing with him last I knew.
In Australia there is Fr. Chazel, and Fr. Edward who is supposed to be there soon.
So, that is six from me. Anyone else? :-)
You mean AUSTRASIA? :reporter: :scratchchin:
Austrasia??? I am confused...
Part of the old Frankish Empire???
This is what I believe Nadir has called Chazalism. He obviously hadn't heard of the long established term Australasia.
Obviously, AMDGJM is not from the eastern part of this planet, meaning Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Hence AUSTRASIA, short form for the countries mentioned, as Fr. Chazal puts it.
My friend NC (AJNC) is that really the comment of Nadir? Chazalism?? :confused1:
Wow! we have Fellyites, Pffeifferites, and now Chazalism. :facepalm: Can't wait to see more of the 'ites' and 'lism'. :popcorn:
Very true... I am from the U.S., and I must admit that this is the first time I have heard of Asia, Australia and New Zealand referred to as Austrasia. We learn something new every day! :-)
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PAX VOBIS AMDGJMJ :pray:
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AMDGJMJ:
I must admit that this is the first time I have heard of Asia, Australia and New Zealand referred to as Austrasia
You would have seen it in Fr Chazal's colourful Epistles to the Austrasians, if you had read them.
chrstnoel1, a chazalism is nothing to do with a new religion. It's sort of like a spoonerism, if you get my drift.
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Thank you Nadir :cheers:
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AMDGJMJ: I must admit that this is the first time I have heard of Asia, Australia and New Zealand referred to as Austrasia
You would have seen it in Fr Chazal's colourful Epistles to the Austrasians, if you had read them.
chrstnoel1, a chazalism is nothing to do with a new religion. It's sort of like a spoonerism, if you get my drift.
I must admit that I have never actually heard any of Fr. Chazal's sermons...
Maybe one day I will be more educated in what is going on around the Catholic world... ;-)
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And this is how a thread is diverted from its original purpose.
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And this is how a thread is diverted from its original purpose.
Recently Fr Chazal was photographed with Bishop Williamson at the latter's home. Around the same time Fr Pfeiffer was in London where he was critical of Williamson.
In his London talk Fr Pfeiffer also mentioned Mass centers in Asia which are not ordinarily serviced by him, although the impression I got was that he is still connected with them.
So, in this case the answer to Who's where? should perhaps be, Who knows?
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And this is how a thread is diverted from its original purpose.
Recently Fr Chazal was photographed with Bishop Williamson at the latter's home. Around the same time Fr Pfeiffer was in London where he was critical of Williamson.
In his London talk Fr Pfeiffer also mentioned Mass centers in Asia which are not ordinarily serviced by him, although the impression I got was that he is still connected with them.
So, in this case the answer to Who's where? should perhaps be, Who knows?
or Who knows where? :scratchchin:
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We really need help from God to resolve all of this...
Viva Cristo Rey!
Viva Cor Mariae Immaculata!