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Online Pax Vobis

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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2023, 08:38:57 AM »
There are multiple versions of the 1962 missal, so it depends which one you're talking about.  If you're talking about the original edition, this one did NOT add St Joseph to the canon.  I'm not sure if it deleted the 2nd confiteor prayer but most Trad priests add that back in anyways.

The Holy Week changes are also lumped into this discussion but those were in use before 62, and only affect 3 days, but not the actual mass for the rest of the year.  The big change of the 62 missal is to the calendar.  Many vigils were deleted but also the calendar feast days were simplified.  The changes to the calendar are not uber-liberal, even if they aren't Traditional.

Fr Wathen said that he saw no major issues with the 62 missal (assuming you don't add St Joseph to the canon and you add back the 2nd confiteor).  He said it wasn't the best but there was no danger to one's Faith.  In other words, there are bigger fish to fry.

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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2023, 10:30:34 AM »
Fr Wathen said that he saw no major issues with the 62 missal (assuming you don't add St Joseph to the canon and you add back the 2nd confiteor).  He said it wasn't the best but there was no danger to one's Faith.  In other words, there are bigger fish to fry.

I agree with Fr. Wathen on this point. I think this is a very sane, balanced take on the '62. It's not that big of a deal. CERTAINLY not a danger to one's Faith. In other words, if your only option for Mass is said with the '62 Missale, and you stay "home alone" for this dumb reason -- good luck at your Judgment.
It's akin to avoiding Sunday Mass because the priest has bad breath, or is the "wrong" race according to you. NOT a good enough reason!


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2023, 10:59:58 AM »
I agree with Fr. Wathen on this point. I think this is a very sane, balanced take on the '62. It's not that big of a deal. CERTAINLY not a danger to one's Faith. In other words, if your only option for Mass is said with the '62 Missale, and you stay "home alone" for this dumb reason -- good luck at your Judgment.
It's akin to avoiding Sunday Mass because the priest has bad breath, or is the "wrong" race according to you. NOT a good enough reason!

I think that almost everyone to a person on this board disagrees with Traditio's characterization of the 1962 Missal as "Half Novus Ordo".

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Re: What is SSPX Resistance?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2023, 11:29:01 AM »
By the grace of God I was "resisting" long before there was a "Resistance."  I made the Novus Ordo to Traditional jump in 1990.  But thankfully I have had good priests, friends, and books along the way.  Fr Wathen wrote The Great Sacrilege before the founding of the "Resistance," before the SSPX even (at least he began writing the book before the founding of the SSPX).  There were only a few priests and laymen who sensed the liberal carnage prior to 1970, or even prior to Vat II.   

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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2023, 01:04:49 PM »
I think that almost everyone to a person on this board disagrees with Traditio's characterization of the 1962 Missal as "Half Novus Ordo".

With all due respect to the priest who claims that, his assertion is asinine ("of or pertaining to a donkey"). It is an insult to anyone who has been spiritually harmed by the Novus Ordo. It downplays the evil of the Novus Ordo.