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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2023, 06:46:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on November 26, 2023, 03:31:55 AM
    I didn’t say that.  I said the conference is still a go.  +Vigano has not been removed from the promotion page.  I’m sure you can email Dr Mazza if you feel the need to confirm.
    No, I don't need to do that.  It's just that the post you made to my first one on this thread sounded like you were going to email him to find out if Vigano was attending (given that was what I was questioning there as well). 
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #16 on: November 26, 2023, 09:07:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on November 26, 2023, 06:46:01 AM
    No, I don't need to do that.  It's just that the post you made to my first one on this thread sounded like you were going to email him to find out if Vigano was attending (given that was what I was questioning there as well).
    I gotcha.  Dr Mazza has a long-standing reputation of scholarship and integrity.  I would think he’d remove +Vigano’s name from the lineup if he wasn’t attending.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #17 on: December 09, 2023, 12:08:04 AM »
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    • https://m.youtube.com/live/Cs6kcIeMxD8


    Advertised Speakers:

    H.E. AB Vigano
    Fr. Paul Kramer
    Dr Ed Mazza
    Ann Bernhardt
    Elizabeth Yore
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #18 on: December 09, 2023, 07:30:39 AM »
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    • You will probably hear during this conference different reasons for why Jorge Bergoglio is not pope, but the a priori cause is that Benedict XVI did not renounce his munus.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #19 on: December 09, 2023, 09:05:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on December 09, 2023, 07:30:39 AM
    You will probably hear during this conference different reasons for why Jorge Bergoglio is not pope, but the a priori cause is that Benedict XVI did not renounce his munus.

    I'm sure you'll hear that from the Barnhardt group, but that hasn't been +Vigano's main reason.  At one point, Barnhardt denounced the vitium consensus position, clinging to the munus nonsense.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #20 on: December 09, 2023, 09:40:25 AM »
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #21 on: December 09, 2023, 09:53:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on December 09, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
    He has also announced that he is opening a Seminary.  Wonder if he’ll discuss this? 

    I'm guessing that +Vigano's comments will be pre-recorded.  Maybe Barnhardt will see something she doesn't like and pull the plug on it like Matt did.  :laugh1:
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #22 on: December 09, 2023, 10:00:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 09, 2023, 09:53:47 AM
    I'm guessing that +Vigano's comments will be pre-recorded.  Maybe Barnhardt will see something she doesn't like and pull the plug on it like Matt did.  :laugh1:
    My understanding is that it is a live conference…nothing prerecorded.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #23 on: December 09, 2023, 10:34:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on December 09, 2023, 12:08:04 AM
    https://m.youtube.com/live/Cs6kcIeMxD8


    Advertised Speakers:

    H.E. AB Vigano
    Fr. Paul Kramer
    Dr Ed Mazza
    Ann Bernhardt
    Elizabeth Yore
    I thought you had to register first.  
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #24 on: December 09, 2023, 10:48:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 09, 2023, 10:34:41 AM
    I thought you had to register first. 
    I did…there’s the link.  It is a public event.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #25 on: December 09, 2023, 12:41:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 09, 2023, 09:53:47 AM
    I'm guessing that +Vigano's comments will be pre-recorded.  Maybe Barnhardt will see something she doesn't like and pull the plug on it like Matt did.  :laugh1:
    Yes, you called it!  It is prerecorded!
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #26 on: December 09, 2023, 01:14:05 PM »
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    • I'm listening to this while I work and thus far we've had ...

    1) started with the Rosary (Dr. Mazza botched the Creed, as he confused the Apostles' Creed with the Nicene ... which speaks to regular attendance at the NOM)

    2) Father Kramer just seemed to read something ... mostly a summary of prior work he's done.

    3) Ann Barnhardt is just re-hashing her speech about Canon Law and non-resignationism.

    So there's basically nothing new yet, all stuff that's been out there forever.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #27 on: December 09, 2023, 01:15:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on December 09, 2023, 12:41:02 PM
    Yes, you called it!  It is prerecorded!

    +Vigano has done almost everything pre-recorded.  I don't know if he's done anything live ... especially for English speakers.  He's not SUPER fluent in English, so I think he's more comfortable doing it recorded than live.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #28 on: December 09, 2023, 01:16:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 09, 2023, 10:34:41 AM
    I thought you had to register first. 

    They made it seem that way on Barnhardt's website, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

    Thus far it's nothing new, but a re-presentation of material that every here on CI has been exposed to dozens of times.

    I'll mostly be interested in hearing what +Vigano has to say ... though I suspect that too will be a re-iteration of things he's said before.
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    Re: + Vigano online conference Dec 9
    « Reply #29 on: December 09, 2023, 03:54:36 PM »
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    • I just happened to hear Dr. Mazza citing Fr. Duterte from Most Holy Trinity Seminary, against Schneider's position, regarding Universal Peaceful Acceptance not being a teaching of the Magisterium.
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