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The Thread of Threads
« on: May 25, 2019, 07:09:17 AM »
Forgotten threads which were memorable to me in their day (in no particular order):

1) Ignis Ardens Will Be Closed Permanently (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/ignis-ardens-will-be-closed-permanently/  Memorable because it was the first major victory of Menzingen in the internet war.  Menaced by legal action and the intervention of Max Krah, it was the first in a series of blogs and fora to close down.  6.5 years later, CI stands nearly alone in the English-speaking world.  

2) Bishop Fellay: The Pope May Declare Us Schismatic (2011): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/bishop-fellay-the-pope-may-declare-us-schismatic/  Memorable, because this was pre-Feb/2012.  Bishop Fellay was not to announce his willingness to break with Archbishop Lefebvre's policy for 3 more months, so things were still a bit speculative at this point.  Bishop Williamson was just about to be banned from attending the meeting of superiors in Albano, gathered to consider the secret preamble (doctrinal declaration), and here was Bishop Fellay expressing worry about whether or not the Pope would declare the SSPC schismatic.  That this bishop would worry about being declared schismatic by the modernists was the real cause of worry, and a very clear change of attitude in comparison to the Open Letter to Cardinal Gantin (worries which would prove to be well-founded in hindsight!).

3) Who is Bishop Fellay? (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/who-is-bishop-fellay/ In the aftermath of the April 15, 2012 doctrinal declaration and the blatant attempt to submit the SSPX to conciliar authority by signing a docuмent containing a plethora of liberal propositions, people began more closely to look into Bishop Fellay's background.  This thread contained the news from Stephen Heiner that Bishop Fellay was not among the original three candidates chosen to be consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre (later affirmed by Bishop Williamson), but was instead a late concession granted to Swiss benefactors in gratitude for their charity.

4) Bp Fellay presented Bp Williamson with an ultimatum (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/bp-fellay-presented-bp-williamson-with-an-ultimatum/ This thread showed the lengths Bishop Fellay was willing to go to in order to be recognized by apostate Rome.  I remember thinking, "He's actually setting the stage to kick the bishop out.  What will happen then?"  I remember how excited we all were when we thought the Resistance was going to get a leader who would lead a new SSPX, and we would all be saved from becoming wandering nomads.  Alas, the bishop had other plans, and morphed the Resistance from its intended replacement of the SSPX into a slowly dissolving disconnected group of isolated independents.  Nevertheless, in these days the Resistance was strong and enthusiastic: If +BF is going to kick out the bishop, we will benefit, and start over.  Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way.

5) Militant Anti-Resistance Sermon in St. Paul, MN (2013): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/militant-anti-resistance-sermon-in-st-paul-mn/ Fr. Webber had been preaching against Roman modernism, and it was a danger to the ralliement.  Would the whole parish go over to the Resistance.  BIshop Williamson had just visited St. Paul, and drew 100 faithful fromthe local SSPX chapel to his conference (during work hours, on a weekday!).  The Resistance was STRONG in Minnesota, and Fr. Webber seemed to be getting on board himself.  But he went on vacation, and the District sent Fr. Rutledge to be the hatchet man.  In all my years attending Mass, I never heard a sermon like this one.  Devoid of anything supernatural, it was a political speech: Gen on board, or get out.  Shrotly thereafter, Fr. Webber would be transferred.  He has slowly been marginalized ever since, and is content to lay low in the SSPX.  But the speech achieved its desired effect, and most fell back into line.  The Resistance in Minnesota would never draw 100 faithful again, and it has been a slow deterioration ever since.

6) Beware of SSPX Schools (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/beware-of-sspx-schools/ One of the first posts to express concerns about the ralliement indoctrination in SSPX schools.  Later concerns would be aired about policies in England, Ireland, Canada, and scandals in Post Falls, etc.  Since then, we have had our kids in and out of the SSPX school twice.

7) Awesome resource - somone has done it (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/awesome-resource-someone-has-done-it!/  The first comprehensive and cohesive treatment of Bishop Fellay's break with Archbishop Lefebvre.  Today, it stands as a classic, but ending in 2013, I had hoped Mr. Fox would write a 2nd volume.  I wonder what has become of him since this was written?

8] SSPX Spokesman: If the Superior General Agrees, the Society will come along (2011): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-spokesman-if-the-general-superior-agrees-the-society-will-come-along/  As with thread #4 above, Bishop Fellay & Co. were setting up +BW's ouster at this time.  They were also selling the deal.  Can you imagine today the SSPX 1st Asst to the Superior General getting shouted down for preaching union with apostate Rome?!?!  Yet it happened!  See 2nd post in this thread by me.  Fr. Pfluger is publicly contradicted by an elderly priest, and falls silent.  There was great hope for the Resistance in these days.  We almost hoped for +BW's expulsion, so we could get rolling.  How different was the mindset of the faithful in these days.  People: This was only 7.5 years ago!

9) www.savesspx.com (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/httpwww-savesspx-com/  Only included this one, because it got me thinking about all the great blogs and Resistance fora which have closed over the years: savesspx.com, truetrad.com, Ignis Ardens, Archbishop Lefebvre Forums (1.0, 2.0, 2.1), etc. What do you think the reason for all these closures is?  Having been one of these bloggers, I have my own idea, but it will not be popular (at least, not here).

10) Krahgate (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/krahgate-21241/  Was there something more to the ralliement than merely liberalism, scruples, and neo-SSPX's rejection of Archbishop Lefebvre?  This thread explored that possibility.

11) SSPX Postures for Mass - Slow Boiling SSPXers? (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-postures-for-mass-slow-boiling-sspxers/ A theme which would be revived several years later when these very same changes were instituted by the current pastor in my own SSPX chapel.  This was one of the first threads to suggest that we would again experience the Cranmerian incrementalism as part of the ralliement.  Will it end with the SSPX accepting the hybrid missal BXVI and Francis announced they would eventually implement.  How could they not?  That would be disobedient to their conciliar keepers!

Which ones would you have included?

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Re: The Thread of Threads
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2019, 08:22:59 AM »

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Re: #9. What do you think the reason for all these closures is?  Having been one of these bloggers, I have my own idea, but it will not be popular (at least, not here).

Please tell.  I love unpopular ideas. 


Re: The Thread of Threads
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2019, 12:45:30 PM »
Please tell.  I love unpopular ideas.

I wonder if Sean will agree?

The reasons behind the trad media shut-downs, especially Ignis ardens, are likely blackmail or intimidation.

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 12:52:07 PM »

Inside the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic tool-box are two important items: blackmail and intimidation.


The zionist German, Max Krah previously made threats of initiating such lawsuits against US resistance members. 
Hollingsworth received such a public threat.

But how could Krah do it?  

His eMBA classmate, Oren Heiman  is a principal in an Israeli international law firm.
It is very plausible he could broker such a lawsuit using their octopus network.

So just imagine getting such a threatening phone call.  What would you do?



 Max Krah's handler, mossad, eMBA classmate, Oren Heiman [url=https://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2012/06/maximilian-krahs-handler-oren-heiman-co.html]Maurice Pinay[/url]


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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2019, 01:19:06 PM »
9) www.savesspx.com (2012): https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/httpwww-savesspx-com/  Only included this one, because it got me thinking about all the great blogs and Resistance fora which have closed over the years: savesspx.com, truetrad.com, Ignis Ardens, Archbishop Lefebvre Forums (1.0, 2.0, 2.1), etc. What do you think the reason for all these closures is?  Having been one of these bloggers, I have my own idea, but it will not be popular (at least, not here).
You're probably not thinking of the right site. The blog was something like "sossaveoursspx.com" and was run by Hugh Dolan. 
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The site in that thread (savesspx.com) was my idea -- Matthew doing the actual work, of course : ) -- and we stopped renewing the domain after it had served its purpose and was no longer useful. It was never a blog or a forum, only a petition site.