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Offline AntiFellayism

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« on: October 15, 2012, 08:03:45 PM »
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  • SAVE THE SOULS OF YOUR CHILDREN-- A Very Serious Matter

      The crazed administrators of the Society of Saint Pius X are now, quite foolishly, allowing their stupidities affect the teaching and training of your children. As Father Rostand is forcing his pastors to refuse Holy Communion, Confession and other sacraments to traditionalists SSPX ers who oppose , or criticise in any way his or Bishop Fellays's reckless program to join Rome, they are actually going into the classrooms now and instructing the children that "opposing Bishop Fellay or Father Rostand are mortal sins"!   Unfortunately, the parents can't be in the classrooms to see what they are teaching-- so when a priest comes into the classroom and instructs the children that Mr. so and so , who can not receive Holy communion, committed a mortal sin by opposing Bishop Fellay, the parents have no idea of what's happening! This brain washing, now happening in Society Schools, is the exact reason most traditional Catholic parents put their children there to begin with-- to avoid the brain washing in public schools!!.

           For years, the more liberal SSPX administrators tried to introduce novelties into the schools first; then bring them into the parish. This is what they did with the dialogue mass, which was a favorite program of the french priests. They told us "we do this (the dialogue) in France!". When we responded," We've never done this here in the US-- take it back to France!, they relented. The Archbishop had, long ago, promised not to change the ecclesiastical practices in the various countries. But these priests coming from France were far more advanced along the liberalist timeline, so they had adopted dialoguing long ago. They relented for awhile, until the COR UNAM (the monthly marching order for the priests) told them to start introducing it through the schools.

           Now, they come along and start teaching the children that to disagree with Fr Rostand or Bishop Fellay is a mortal sin. And, having a priest in front of the classroom spout this garbage is powerful stuff!  "So-- you Mom and Dad  can't have opinions that are outside of those demanded by Rostand or Fellay-- otherwise you will be in mortal sin-- And the Priest you sent me to told me so !"    This is EXACTLY how they got the kids to accept the new mass in the 70's!-- telling them " Don't listen to your parents-- they are old fashioned. Bishop Fellay knows best!   Take your children home. Teach them at the Kitchen table. Put them into a local Academy. They will not come home and tell you the garbage they are now learning about how nice and friendly Rome is-- because they are being warned that you are old-fashioned. And children, with the powerful image of he priest and mortal sin dangling over their heads, will believe the lie against their parents. Take them out-- and give them a chance to save their souls outside of this crazy environment. Teach them at home if necessary-- there are plenty of resources today that were not available even a few short years ago! You may be blessed and have a strong pastor, one who will not spout this trash to your children--you should check. There are many, many, faithful and good priests , doing their job, staying out of the controversy--support them. But don't let the weak priests, those from whom you have already heard the condemnation sermons from the pulpits (condemning everything on the internet, condemning the " breakaway priest', some even condemning father Pfeiffer by name), teach your children-- they'll be condemning you behind your back!

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    And now, we have a perfectly liberal Pope, my very dear brothers. As he goes to this country [the United States]which is founded upon Masonic principles, that is, of a revolution, of a rebellion against God. And, well, he expressed his admira

    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 08:12:39 PM »
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  • you'd have to be crazy to hand your children to be taught by these people.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 09:09:14 PM »
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  • The SSPX school in Arcadia, Ca seems to be producing potential saints. Its too far for my children to attend there, but I would try to send them if it was closer to my home.

    I'm curious AntiFellayism, is there any proof besides the post you've posted that's found on the SOS website? It can seem very incredible to simply say something with out proof, you know?

    If this is the case, however, and there is evidence, it would be very sad. I haven't been around the forums much recently, but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else. I wonder if this is a case of a specific priest. Fr Cooper, who is now the prior at the Arcadia priory here in Southern California, seem s to be a very holy man. I wonder if California is still being largely left out of the politics as usual...

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    « Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 09:22:54 PM »
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    I wonder if California is still being largely left out of the politics as usual...



    It has been very quiet where I attend. Never a word from the priest except when he announced that there was a potential deal with Rome. Two or three sentences. He seemed hopeful for it. That was back in May or so, I think. Haven't even heard any talk in the parking lot , ect. Maybe so, s2srea, we maybe just out of the loop here on the west coast.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 09:26:18 PM »
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    Maybe so, s2srea, we maybe just out of the loop here on the west coast.


    Yes Mansion- I know this is often the case. We can be thank for for this, in one sense, but I fear for the other parishioners as well. They are often out of the loop. The only other person who I am able to speak to about this is an avid SSPX fan- they can do no wrong, it seems. He is sincere, and seems to be fearful of the same things as I, but doesn't see an wrong in the actions of Bishop Fellay, which is saddening. He is an older man, a Third Order member, but is a very good man and has one of the biggest hearts I know. Other than him, no one really knows what's going on.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 09:27:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    The SSPX school in Arcadia, Ca seems to be producing potential saints. Its too far for my children to attend there, but I would try to send them if it was closer to my home.

    I'm curious AntiFellayism, is there any proof besides the post you've posted that's found on the SOS website? It can seem very incredible to simply say something with out proof, you know?

    If this is the case, however, and there is evidence, it would be very sad. I haven't been around the forums much recently, but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else. I wonder if this is a case of a specific priest. Fr Cooper, who is now the prior at the Arcadia priory here in Southern California, seem s to be a very holy man. I wonder if California is still being largely left out of the politics as usual...


    I know that chapel like the back of my hand...Fr. Cooper has been here only since late August/ September.  He's never preached anything but sermons on virtue, saints, or the like, never mentions anything to do with the politics.  

    I have noticed a much more relaxed and tolerant attitude, much more conciliar...there are many Filipinos, Chinese, Mexican, as well as Caucasian...many have come from the NO...I would say most are ignorant, many by choice of the politics...in other words...the smells and the bells keeps them satisfied.

    The school has shrunk in size from five or so years ago...saints being produced?  I think that's an exaggeration.

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    « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 09:51:02 PM »
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    I have noticed a much more relaxed and tolerant attitude, much more conciliar...there are many Filipinos, Chinese, Mexican, as well as Caucasian...


    Yes but mostly white. Its a bit of a upper-class neighborhood. Isn't it a spectacle seeing all of those churches on Duarte Rd and Huntington Dr?


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    many have come from the NO...


    Don't all most all of us? Even those born into Tradition have parents who were likely NO at one point.

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    I would say most are ignorant, many by choice of the politics...in other words...the smells and the bells keeps them satisfied.


    Ah. Personally, I wouldn't know. I don't attend there anymore, and have not spoken to the parishioners recently. I would still them rather be here than anywhere else. I was not too long ago a newly 'former conciliar' Catholic. The years and the Graces of God have saw to it that I learn more about the Faith, though I have failed in many ways. Hopefully those attendees can receive the same graces to move forward spiritually.

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    The school has shrunk in size from five or so years ago...saints being produced?  I think that's an exaggeration.


    Fair enough, just my observation. I know a young man who attends there and seems very holy.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 12:21:41 AM »
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  • This is something to watch for and document.

    SSPX schools are known to have their own self-interest agendas.
    Bad-mouthing SSPX home-school students comes to mind.

    If Father Rostand is withholding Sacraments, I would consider the school indoctrination charges a real possibiity.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 05:37:08 AM »
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  • Fee-paying schools usually end up being exclusive and a temporary refuge for the children of well-heeled parents seeking a different moral environment to the one they inhabit. I suppose SSPX ones can be be recruiting grounds for priests and laity trained in a certain ideology, ensuring the continuation of its network of parishes. But come their teenage years, pupils tend to decide things for themselves, making it hard to predict how they will turn out.  

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    « Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 07:09:01 AM »
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  • I recently discovered that everything at the school nearest me is not as it seems.  I had heard "things" from people but never gave it any serious thought and just chalked it up to disgruntled parents and/or gossip.

    But Our Lord has a way of revealing things to those who can see.  We "almost" sent one of our sons there.  We really sat and decided what we would sacrifice for tuition.  But something always nagged at us and we thought it best not to commit.

    So after I learned what was happening there, we were so relieved.

    All of it will start to come out sooner are later.  Our Lord does not keep things in the dark.  Once it's all out in the open, others will better be able to understand.

    One might look at the priests who are running their schools.  Some priests are prone to violence and there are reports of intimidation and fear through physical means.

    For this reason alone, I think parents would do well to educate their children at home.


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    « Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 07:32:00 AM »
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    I recently discovered that everything at the school nearest me is not as it seems.  I had heard "things" from people but never gave it any serious thought and just chalked it up to disgruntled parents and/or gossip.

    But Our Lord has a way of revealing things to those who can see.  We "almost" sent one of our sons there.  We really sat and decided what we would sacrifice for tuition.  But something always nagged at us and we thought it best not to commit.

    So after I learned what was happening there, we were so relieved.

    All of it will start to come out sooner are later.  Our Lord does not keep things in the dark.  Once it's all out in the open, others will better be able to understand.

    One might look at the priests who are running their schools.  Some priests are prone to violence and there are reports of intimidation and fear through physical means.

    For this reason alone, I think parents would do well to educate their children at home.



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    « Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 07:48:14 AM »
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  • Back when I had far more faith in the SSPX I still had serious reservations about their schools. The problem I think is that people have this idea that the school is wonderful and even though the families are not traditionally minded, they bring their problem children to the school for the school to "straighten" them out. It is not the schools job to correct children. It is the parent's job and no school will be able to do that if the parents have not done their job. The school is simply their to help the family and not to do the job of the family.
    Also I don't believe the average SSPX Priest would give you good sound unbiased advice as to how you should educate your children. The Priests feel compelled to tell parents to send their children to their schools and I believe this is primarily for financial purposes. They need numbers and money to keep them open. They would not tell you to homeschool if they have a school available because they want to keep their school alive. I can understand this reasoning but then you have to ask, what is the purpose of the school? Are the children their to feed their school or are the schools their to feed and nourish the children. I believe the former is the case in many situations.
    In my experience, the SSPX has been very much against homeschooling and has even been quite hostile to it.  

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    « Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 09:04:12 AM »
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  • I agree we need to be watchful of what happens in SSPX schools, but I wouldn't lump all their schools as problematic, nor all their priests.  I remember reading, years ago, in an old Angelus, about Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the Holy Ghost Fathers in Africa.  He explained muslims would send their children to the school because of its reputation, but under pain of death the priests, teachers, and students could not convert them or likewise, the student.  Also, St. John Bosco, worked with children from impoverished/bad homes and worked miracles.

    What I have found in our SSPX chapel/school, is the attitude that teachers are always right, because it undermines their authority if a parent disagrees with them.  I think this is a strange teaching that has been around the Catholic schools long before the SSPX.  

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    « Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 09:06:33 AM »
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    I think this is a strange teaching that has been around the Catholic schools long before the SSPX.  


    That's because the teachers were religious.

    Yes, a harvest of bitter fruits has come from the indulgence of arrogance.


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    « Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 09:07:31 AM »
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  • It seems to me bad teachers get away with things while good teachers are unappreciated and treated with suspicion.

     

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