Author Topic: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him (Read 13451 times)

brianhope · « **Reply #45 on:** November 18, 2014, 07:24:03 AM »

Quote from: BostonFog

Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics. There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.

Someone, please help me understand.
How does this man have authority? Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.

I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Amateur Exorcist) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.

Pablo doesn't typically travel with the priests. Ocassionally, yes, but not often.

I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #46 on:** November 18, 2014, 07:53:43 AM »

Quote from: brianhope

Quote from: BostonFog
Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics. There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.

Someone, please help me understand.
How does this man have authority? Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.

I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Amateur Exorcist) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.

Pablo doesn't typically travel with the priests. Ocassionally, yes, but not often.

I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.

That's a fair assesment. I was at the 2012 ordinations so I recall that that was the first I had heard of him. However, this leaves me wondering, if he doesn't travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, how does it get every video recording that Fr. Pfeiffer preaches and upload them to his you-tube channel? This suggests a very strong collaboration between the two of them. Does it not?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #47 on:** November 18, 2014, 10:23:38 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

However, this leaves me wondering, if he doesn't travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, how does it get every video recording that Fr. Pfeiffer preaches and upload them to his you-tube channel? This suggests a very strong collaboration between the two of them. Does it not?

Reapeating myself from another thread:

Quote

The Resistance priests provide nearly all of the content for one site and most of it for the other. If they don't approve of how those sites are being managed and the webmaster refuses to pass the job on to someone else, the obvious solution is to simply stop providing them content.

Father Pfeiffer commented a long time ago that he had no shortage of people offering to provide help with Internet operations.

Furthermore, if someone is purporting to represent you on a website but in fact posts content contrary to your actual positions, you'd more likely be seeking legal action than keeping them on as your cook.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #48 on:** November 18, 2014, 11:10:12 PM »

Quote from: brianhope

.

I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.

The "surprise visit" to Chicago with Pablo's video caused a huge rift with Bp. Tissier. The priests would have been aware of the outrage expressed by the bishop at the publication by a couple of Fr. Phieffer's fans (members of 2 forums after Pablo was banned from both).

So, there are probably other laypeople who send Pablo videos.