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Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 07:42:59 AM
Quote from: Pablo
To All Concerned:

No info, No Mass.
If you do not want to be made public, please respond to this mail that your location be removed as a place for Mass.
We currently have about 50 locations crying out for the Mass; this will be an excellent opportunity to serve Our Lady's poor children.

pablo the M exican
Chief in Charge, the Resistance
*

You have offended me and all those I love...
The hatred I have in my heart and my soul for Trad Catholics of Immaculate Virtue, those Whited Sepulcher Pharisees (as I am no longer able to call them), runs shoulder to shoulder with my hatred of the Apostate Angels.
The damage you do to poor souls will be made manifest to you when side by side with the Father of Lies are made to proclaim that which he denies.
You all are no more Catholic than I am a woman with twelve children.
Never in my life have I seen such a wicked group, and I know some real pukes.
When I arrived again at Headquarters this time, much much against my will, a Novena was prayed by you wicked people asking Our Lord to run me out of here.
Save your evil prayers. And the Rosary Prayers you are calling for are of evil intent. Start your Novena to run me out of here again. This time try harder.
I hate being among you all.
Do you morons know what "pablo the M exican productions" means?
In your english I guess that means this is owned by Father Pfeiffer.
You constantly smash the Poor Souls and refuse to feed Poor Lazarus.
May the Lord punish you, Satan.

"we are the last bastion of the Roman Catholic Faith, the Roman Catholic Church"
No, you are not.
How arrogant of you to say so.
Satanic pride.



Pablo,

FIrst, I want to point out that you're a coward. You haven't been sending most of your recent e-mails to me. Do you fear me? I don't blame you, I guess.

You're no Cristero. You are doing the devil's work. This is what happens when you become too fascinated with the devil -- he slowly gets power over you. You have started to imitate him. Look at the diabolical hatred and pride which oozes from your recent missives, which I have posted at the bottom of this e-mail!

I judge a tree by its fruits. Your fruits are rotten and evil, Pablo.

You are trying to undermine the American chapter of the Resistance to modernism. You have betrayed the Resistance into the hands of Fr. Wegner and anyone else who wants to persecute the Resistance. You walked into the enemy camp with a list of our generals' names and addresses, and handed it to them. Who would call that anything but foul treason?

They may not be able to destroy the Resistance, or even the American chapter of the Resistance thanks to your provided help. But you sure did your best!

I utterly and categorically refuse your terms. I refuse to give you any obeisance whatsoever as the "Chief in Charge" of the Resistance.
You can tell that to Fr. Pfeiffer and anyone else you like. I refuse permission to post my contact information as you have done.

I have never had a problem making my Masses public, posting the Mass location (with my first name and phone number) on the official website. You can't deny this truth. Nevertheless, it is not necessary to post the private information about where the Coordinators sleep at night!

I have worked hard to build up the San Antonio Resistance myself, from scratch. I am loyal to Bishop Williamson and the entire cause (the Resistance), NOT Boston KY, Fr. Pfeiffer, or yourself. I support those entities ONLY insofar as they support the Resistance itself. I refuse to follow any cult of personality or let ANYONE cloud my judgement on matters of morality and Faith.

Calling +Williamson and Fr. Zendejas "children of hell" was WRONG. Posting, without permission, the PRIVATE addresses (not the Mass locations) of the chapel Coordinators was WRONG. As in, sinful. Fr. Pfeiffer seems to approve of your sin. He has STILL not rectified this situation, even though it has been almost 2 days since the information was posted.

If Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't remove you -- and soon -- from all your position(s) of power, I fear this will be the end of the SSPX-MC (Fr. Pfeiffer's branch of the Resistance). Former supporters have become outraged in recent days by your behavior.

Praying that you will be converted,

Matthew
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 07:44:26 AM
My response (above) was sent via e-mail to Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer as well as Pablo.

Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 08:05:25 AM
This e-mail from Pablo, sent out to all the Resistance chapel Coordinators -- who have worked tirelessly to run the Mass centers throughout the USA -- really speaks for itself.

Within it you find diabolical hatred, pride, schism, a curse, a taunt, a baseless assertion...

Quote from: Pablo
You have offended me and all those I love...

The hatred I have in my heart and my soul for Trad Catholics of Immaculate Virtue, those Whited Sepulcher Pharisees (as I am no longer able to call them), runs shoulder to shoulder with my hatred of the Apostate Angels.

The damage you do to poor souls will be made manifest to you when side by side with the Father of Lies are made to proclaim that which he denies.

You all are no more Catholic than I am a woman with twelve children.

Never in my life have I seen such a wicked group, and I know some real pukes.

When I arrived again at Headquarters this time, much much against my will, a Novena was prayed by you wicked people asking Our Lord to run me out of here.

Save your evil prayers. And the Rosary Prayers you are calling for are of evil intent. Start your Novena to run me out of here again. This time try harder.

I hate being among you all.

Do you morons know what "pablo the M exican productions" means?

In your english I guess that means this is owned by Father Pfeiffer.

You constantly smash the Poor Souls and refuse to feed Poor Lazarus.

May the Lord punish you, Satan.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 08:11:53 AM
Pablo has responded with a video clip --

http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/dedicated-to-those-people/

A blue-eyed Jesus (?) addressing the Pharisees.

As a side rant, I hate it when they go so far as to give Our Lord blue eyes and/or "dirty dish blond" hair. He was a real man who walked the earth from 0 - 33 AD. He was ethnically Jєωιѕн. Jews don't have blue eyes, or light hair for that matter.

He isn't Santa Claus, or a fairy tale that can and must be "interpreted" by each culture.

Also, Our Lord was the perfect man. Blue eyes is actually a defect -- insufficient pigmentation in the eye, which happens to signify insufficient melanin in the skin as well. Those with blue eyes get sunburn more easily, and can't absorb as much UV light without getting a headache.

I don't know what movie that was from, but let's just say the actor that portrayed Our Blessed Lord was no Jim Caviezel!
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: OHCA on November 15, 2014, 08:32:13 AM
I think you're on to something--Pablo got a little to close to and toyed a little too much with the devil.  "Amateur exorcist" my ass--that's oxymoronic--"amateurs" have no place in exorcisms.

The man needs exorcised himself and put in a straight-jacket and institutionalized.

"You have offended me and all those I love..."  This is another example of Pablo dramatizing and being emotional and in touch with his feminine side.

"The hatred I have in my heart and my soul..."  Pretty deranged and more than a little alarming.

"Start your Novena to run me out of here again. This time try harder."  Prideful arrogant bastard--challenging those who want him straightened out or dismissed.

"Do you morons know what "pablo the M exican productions" means?"  Produced by a deranged nutjob wetback?

"May the Lord punish you, Satan."  Is he signing this as "Satan," or is he appealing to Satan?  Whatever the case, he's wishing that his "enemies" literally go to hell.

One more thing...    !
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: curioustrad on November 15, 2014, 08:37:23 AM
Quote from: Matthew
Pablo has responded with a video clip --

http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/dedicated-to-those-people/

A blue-eyed Jesus (?) addressing the Pharisees.

As a side rant, I hate it when they go so far as to give Our Lord blue eyes and/or "dirty dish blond" hair. He was a real man who walked the earth from 0 - 33 AD. He was ethnically Jєωιѕн. Jews don't have blue eyes, or light hair for that matter.

He isn't Santa Claus, or a fairy tale that can and must be "interpreted" by each culture.

Also, Our Lord was the perfect man. Blue eyes is actually a defect -- insufficient melanin in the eye, which happens to signify insufficient melanin in the skin as well. Those with blue eyes get sunburn more easily, and can't absorb as much UV light without getting a headache.

I don't know what movie that was from, but let's just say the actor that portrayed Our Blessed Lord was no Jim Caviezel!


Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977 weighing in around 4 hours. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent. There are a number of scriptural problems with it - but it does fairly good job of telling the story.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: curioustrad

Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jews' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.


Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 08:43:44 AM
By the way, the "amateur exorcist" is my appellation for Pablo.

I programmed CathInfo to change

"pablo the M exican"
into
"pablo the amateur exorcist"

After it came to light that he was fighting the devil as a side hobby! He even admitted to it publicly. That was the last straw, and when I decided to ban him from CathInfo.

"amateur" is pretty accurate though -- it does imply non-professional, or something you do on the side.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 08:45:15 AM
When you read Pablo's latest letter, one can discern quite a few signs of the demonic. It's scary, and I'm not joking.

It's hard to explain.

It's scary because I know Pablo has gotten a bit too close to the devil -- maybe something "happened".



Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: True Faith on November 15, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
Quote from: OHCA
I think you're on to something--Pablo got a little to close to and toyed a little too much with the devil.  "Amateur exorcist" my ass--that's oxymoronic--"amateurs" have no place in exorcisms.

The man needs exorcised himself and put in a straight-jacket and institutionalized.

"You have offended me and all those I love..."  This is another example of Pablo dramatizing and being emotional and in touch with his feminine side.

"The hatred I have in my heart and my soul..."  Pretty deranged and more than a little alarming.

"Start your Novena to run me out of here again. This time try harder."  Prideful arrogant bastard--challenging those who want him straightened out or dismissed.

"Do you morons know what "pablo the M exican productions" means?"  Produced by a deranged nutjob wetback?

"May the Lord punish you, Satan."  Is he signing this as "Satan," or is he appealing to Satan?  Whatever the case, he's wishing that his "enemies" literally go to hell.

One more thing...    !


I think the second part of the letter is about what the devil must be thinking and saying.  Otherwise those are very harsh words for a Catholic to utter!
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: OHCA on November 15, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: True Faith
Quote from: OHCA
I think you're on to something--Pablo got a little to close to and toyed a little too much with the devil.  "Amateur exorcist" my ass--that's oxymoronic--"amateurs" have no place in exorcisms.

The man needs exorcised himself and put in a straight-jacket and institutionalized.

"You have offended me and all those I love..."  This is another example of Pablo dramatizing and being emotional and in touch with his feminine side.

"The hatred I have in my heart and my soul..."  Pretty deranged and more than a little alarming.

"Start your Novena to run me out of here again. This time try harder."  Prideful arrogant bastard--challenging those who want him straightened out or dismissed.

"Do you morons know what "pablo the M exican productions" means?"  Produced by a deranged nutjob wetback?

"May the Lord punish you, Satan."  Is he signing this as "Satan," or is he appealing to Satan?  Whatever the case, he's wishing that his "enemies" literally go to hell.

One more thing...    !


I think the second part of the letter is about what the devil must be thinking and saying.  Otherwise those are very harsh words for a Catholic to utter!


Speaking coherently is not Pablo's strong suit, but I don't see any hint that this is anything other than how Pablo thinks those who oppose him should be dealt with.  It seems pretty clear to me that this is Pablo saying "be damned for opposing me."
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: holysoulsacademy on November 15, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: curioustrad

Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jews' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: hollingsworth on November 15, 2014, 11:09:30 AM
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If Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't remove you -- and soon -- from all your position(s) of power, I fear this will be the end of the SSPX-MC (Fr. Pfeiffer's branch of the Resistance). Former supporters have become outraged in recent days by your behavior.

Praying that you will be converted,


Yeah, this is bottom line.  I never was really in the "SSPX-MC" anyway.  But it's entirely up to Fr. Pfeiffer.  Either he get rid of Pablo, i.e. make a clean break with him, or we, i.e. my wife and I, make a clean break with him.  Pablo is 1000% nut, and may be possessed on top of it.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Pete Vere on November 15, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
Quote from: Matthew
If Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't remove you -- and soon -- from all your position(s) of power, I fear this will be the end of the SSPX-MC (Fr. Pfeiffer's branch of the Resistance). Former supporters have become outraged in recent days by your behavior.


This is something that has been irritating me for some time now. Aren't the initials "MC" usually associated in popular culture with outlaw motorcycle clubs? Like "Hells Angels MC" or "Black Pistons MC" or "Sons of Anarchy MC"?

 
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: PerEvangelicaDicta on November 15, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
In case anyone hasn't read this yet -- this will give you a better idea about Pablo.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: brianhope on November 15, 2014, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Mexican) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Pilar on November 15, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Matthew
Pablo has responded with a video clip --

http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/dedicated-to-those-people/

A blue-eyed Jesus (?) addressing the Pharisees.

As a side rant, I hate it when they go so far as to give Our Lord blue eyes and/or "dirty dish blond" hair. He was a real man who walked the earth from 0 - 33 AD. He was ethnically Jєωιѕн. Jews don't have blue eyes, or light hair for that matter.

He isn't Santa Claus, or a fairy tale that can and must be "interpreted" by each culture.

Also, Our Lord was the perfect man. Blue eyes is actually a defect -- insufficient melanin in the eye, which happens to signify insufficient melanin in the skin as well. Those with blue eyes get sunburn more easily, and can't absorb as much UV light without getting a headache.

I don't know what movie that was from, but let's just say the actor that portrayed Our Blessed Lord was no Jim Caviezel!


We have no way to know with absolute certainty what color Our Lord's eyes were. There are many depictions of Him with blue eyes in literature and art, including ancient icons. Also, Our Lord had non-Jєωιѕн ancestors as well. But aside from that, the grey and blue eye color has long been endemic in all white peoples. From dna studies, scientists have concluded that blue eyes have been around for about 6,000 to 10,000 years. So, Adam or Eve probably had them. Blue eyes have never been considered, historically,  a fault, but a trait that was prized. It still is today. These facts hold for blonde hair as well.

As an aside, I am pretty sure that there are and have been countless men with all shades of blonde hair who are/were very manly.

The Description of Publius Lentullus

The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

   "There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jєωιѕн Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"

3. Other Data.

The Problem of the life passion of St. C? us, and the external appearance of Jesus possessed but minor interest for the Church Fathers, although the Catholic Acts of the Holy Apostles ascribe to him an olive complexion, a beautiful beard, and flashing eyes. Further details are first found in a letter to the Emperor Theophilus attributed to John of Damascus (in MPG, xcv. 349), which speaks of the brows which grew together, the beautiful eyes, the prominent nose, the curling hair, the look of health, the black beard, the wheat-colored complexion, and the long fingers, a picture which almost coincides with a hand-book on painting from Mt. Athos not earlier than the sixteenth century. In like manner, Nicephorus Callistus, who introduced his description of the picture of Christ (MPG, cxlv. 748) with the words, "as we have received it from the ancients," was impressed with the healthful appearance, with the stature, the brown hair which was not very thick but somewhat curling, the black brows which were not fully arched, the sea-blue eyes shading into brown, the beautiful glance, the prominent nose, but brown beard of moderate length, and the long hair which had not been cut since childhood, the neck slightly bent, and the olive and somewhat ruddy complexion of the oval face. A slight divergence from both these accounts is shown by the so-called letter of Lentulus, the ostensible predecessor of Pontius Pilate, who is said to have prepared a report to the Roman Senate concerning Jesus and containing a description of him. According to this docuмent Christ possessed a tall and handsome figure, a countenance which inspired reverence and awakened love and fear together, dark, shining, curling hair, parted in the center in Nazarene fashion and flowing over the shoulders, an open and serene forehead, a face without wrinkle or blemish and rendered more beautiful by its delicate ruddiness, a perfect nose and mouth, a full red beard of the same color as the hair and worn in two points and piercing eyes of a grayish-blue.

Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: BostonFog on November 15, 2014, 02:20:50 PM
I am new here. Someone told me to get on here and read about Pablo. I attend the mess center in Boston, KY and I have somewhat to say to everyone.
I have kept much to myself for fear of detraction or some other sin. But, as I read here and at ALF, I see that many, many, if not all are having problems and questions regarding Pablo.
I wish I could tell you everything I know, but prudence tells me not to.
I will say,
1) Please pray for Pablo. I have every reason to believe he is involved in something demonic and I believe he has the priest's, if not, under a spell, than under fear of consequences.
  a) Because it is a public sin, and because of what has occurred recently, I think it is safe to say, publicly, that Pablo does not attend Mass and he has done other things that are not only sinful, but criminal. I believe he has opened the door of his heart to the workings of the devil; to the devil that intends to destroy the Resistance from the inside out.
2)Things are very sad and stressful in Boston right now. But I do believe that Pablo is on his way out. Things are happening.
3) Please pray that Fr. P does the right thing. He himself said in a sermon, that "God sometimes puts us in situations to test us, not revealing to us the right thing to do until afterwards. And then, if we chose unwisely, He hardens out hearts. God alone decides to whom and when and why He softens and hardens hearts" (Not verbatim) Please pray that God does not harden Fr. P's heart. At this point in time, as can be observed, Fr. is turning a deaf ear and blind eyes to the actions of Pablo. But, no one, save God, knows what is going on in his mind and heart. Please pray he receives the grace to do the right thing.
4) Please pray that the scales fall from Fr. Hewko's eyes, for he is not the most observant individual I have ever known. He continues to say, "Pablo is harmless", which makes me wonder just how blind he can be, with things happening right under his nose.
5)I don't believe that Fr. P is completely guilt of neglect. Pablo does many things without permission, and against the permission of Fr. P. Sometimes Fr finds out about it, sometimes not.
Just pray, pray, pray and do some penance. Some devils cannot be dispelled by prayer alone.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: PerEvangelicaDicta on November 15, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
Thank you Matthew, Brianhope and Bostonfog for helping me understand better.

Bostonfog, you are very charitable in your repeated requests for prayer.

Quote
Just pray, pray, pray and do some penance. Some devils cannot be dispelled by prayer alone.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: 1st Mansion Tenant on November 15, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
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sent to Matthew instead.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Matthew on November 15, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
BostonFog, that was an excellent post!

First-hand information, Catholic attitude, understanding the situation, calls for prayer...

You really brought up a good point about hardening of the heart.

When things blow up like this, people tend to "dig in". Let us pray that Fr. Pfeiffer receives the grace to do the right thing -- for the good of the Church and the Resistance.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Pilar on November 15, 2014, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: holysoulsacademy
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: curioustrad

Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jews' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: OHCA on November 15, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
Not to exonerate Fr. P--it was quite foolish to let what is "Pablo" fester and get so big.  But at this point, I don't doubt that fear of criminal/violent retaliation plays a part in Father's decisions.  I was already thinking this.  BostonFog's post makes me think this even more.  It's as evident as anything to me that Pablo is a nutcase of the highest order.

I suspect that the "prudence" dictating BostonFog's holding back a little is more fear of Pablo than anything else, and smartly so.

The man is off the hook and off his rocker--he is incorrigible and uncontrollable and nothing but a liability.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: holysoulsacademy on November 15, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: Pilar
Quote from: holysoulsacademy
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: curioustrad

Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jews' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.


Yes, they call it creative license.  
Just like in the Passion, they chose an aging woman as the Blessed Mother.
And Gibson was also constrained by accusations of anti-semitism if he would proceed with the implications of Deicide.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Miseremini on November 15, 2014, 06:03:59 PM
Fr. P. offered Mass after which he gave a conference in Toronto (Mississauga) Ontario Canada this afternoon.  
He is presently offering Mass In St. Catharines.

Has anyone heard what was said at his conference this afternoon?  I'm sure questions were asked about Pablo.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Pilar on November 15, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: holysoulsacademy
Quote from: Pilar
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Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: curioustrad

Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jews' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.


Yes, they call it creative license.  
Just like in the Passion, they chose an aging woman as the Blessed Mother.
And Gibson was also constrained by accusations of anti-semitism if he would proceed with the implications of Deicide.


It is beyond artistic license when it diminishes dogma. Not sure what you are saying regarding the age of Maia Morgenstern. She was about the age Our Lady would have been, she was 42 and pregnant. In art, She has always been shown as mature at the time of Our Lord's death.

Sorry to have veered away from the main topic, regarding Pablo, the two main priests involved with him need to get rid of him. He is bad for them and their work of saving souls. I believe they were safer with the Society by far. They are babes in the woods. If they fear criminal action, they should get a restraining order.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: ggreg on November 15, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


The priest permitting it, spoke of Cardinal Ratzinger's involvement in Satanic child abuse/murder, in a videotaped sermon, without a shred of evidence.  That shows a profound lack of good sense, prudence and justice.

There is nothing perplexing about it.  Birds of a feather.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: pbax on November 15, 2014, 11:33:19 PM
Oh no, the neoSSPX will have a field day with this info.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Pete Vere on November 15, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Quote from: pbax
Oh no, the neoSSPX will have a field day with this info.


Actually--and I cannot blame them--the SSPX is staying as far away as possible from these latest controversies internal to the Resistance. So are most sedevacantists with who I have spoken. It goes back to an old Roman proverb: Never interfere with your enemy when he is self-destructing.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Elizabeth on November 16, 2014, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta


I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


Who else lives at Pfeiffer Farm?  That will be a clue.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: covet truth on November 16, 2014, 11:25:22 AM
The OLMC website has been "cleaned" as of this morning.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Ekim on November 16, 2014, 11:45:27 AM
Well almost.  Still has negative posts about Fr. Zendejas
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: covet truth on November 16, 2014, 12:21:34 PM
You're right.  I didn't scroll down far enough.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: brianhope on November 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: covet truth
The OLMC website has been "cleaned" as of this morning.


Early this morning the top of the OLofMC webpage featured a photo of a snake with a caption that said something about snakes and "you know who you are". Above that was a blurb about removing Matthew and his wife from the coordinators list, as well as a request for any other coordinators wishing to resign to email marcosandolini333@yahoo.com (Pablo's email). And below the photo of the snake were Matthew's remarks from the start of this thread:

Pablo,

 FIrst, I want to point out that you're a coward. You haven't been sending most of your recent e-mails to me. Do you fear me? I don't blame you, I guess.

You're no Cristero. You are doing the devil's work. This is what happens when you become too fascinated with the devil -- he slowly gets power over you. You have started to imitate him. Look at the diabolical hatred and pride which oozes from your recent missives, which I have posted at the bottom of this e-mail!

 I judge a tree by its fruits. Your fruits are rotten and evil, Pablo.

 You are trying to undermine the American chapter of the Resistance to modernism. You have betrayed the Resistance into the hands of Fr. Wegner and anyone else who wants to persecute the Resistance. You walked into the enemy camp with a list of our generals' names and addresses, and handed it to them. Who would call that anything but foul treason?

 They may not be able to destroy the Resistance, or even the American chapter of the Resistance thanks to your provided help. But you sure did your best!

I utterly and categorically refuse your terms. I refuse to give you any obeisance whatsoever as the "Chief in Charge" of the Resistance.
 You can tell that to Fr. Pfeiffer and anyone else you like. I refuse permission to post my contact information as you have done.

 I have never had a problem making my Masses public, posting the Mass location (with my first name and phone number) on the official website. You can't deny this truth. Nevertheless, it is not necessary to post the private information about where the Coordinators sleep at night!

 I have worked hard to build up the San Antonio Resistance myself, from scratch. I am loyal to Bishop Williamson and the entire cause (the Resistance), NOT Boston KY, Fr. Pfeiffer, or yourself. I support those entities ONLY insofar as they support the Resistance itself. I refuse to follow any cult of personality or let ANYONE cloud my judgement on matters of morality and Faith.

 Calling +Williamson and Fr. Zendejas "children of hell" was WRONG. Posting, without permission, the PRIVATE addresses (not the Mass locations) of the chapel Coordinators was WRONG. As in, sinful. Fr. Pfeiffer seems to approve of your sin. He has STILL not rectified this situation, even though it has been almost 2 days since the information was posted.

 If Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't remove you -- and soon -- from all your position(s) of power, I fear this will be the end of the SSPX-MC (Fr. Pfeiffer's branch of the Resistance). Former supporters have become outraged in recent days by your behavior.

 Praying that you will be converted,

 Matthew
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: brianhope on November 16, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
In my last reply I referenced Paul Hernandez' (a.k.a. Pablo) email address: marcosandolini333@yahoo.com. I just googled that name and saw that a Vimeo video about the Dominicans of Wanganui was made by a Marcos Andolini four years ago. Apparently another alias of his.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: 1st Mansion Tenant on November 16, 2014, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: covet truth
The OLMC website has been "cleaned" as of this morning.

Inthissignyoushallconquer site still has the coordinator's address list up.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: peterp on November 16, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
Quote from: covet truth
The OLMC website has been "cleaned" as of this morning.

Inthissignyoushallconquer site still has the coordinator's address list up.

Looks like they've now been removed from there too.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Sienna629 on November 16, 2014, 08:00:57 PM
Quote from: ggreg

The priest permitting it, spoke of Cardinal Ratzinger's involvement in Satanic child abuse/murder, in a videotaped sermon, without a shred of evidence.  That shows a profound lack of good sense, prudence and justice.




There is evidence out there, just surfacing, but the fact that you aren't aware of it doesn't make Father a liar!  Beware of calumny!
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Ladislaus on November 17, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: hollingsworth
and may be possessed on top of it.


This ^^^

When you mess with the devil without the appropriate graces of state and ecclesiastical authority ...
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: BostonFog on November 17, 2014, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Amateur Exorcist) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.

Pablo doesn't typically travel with the priests. Ocassionally, yes, but not often.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: BostonFog on November 17, 2014, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: Matthew
BostonFog, that was an excellent post!

First-hand information, Catholic attitude, understanding the situation, calls for prayer...

You really brought up a good point about hardening of the heart.

When things blow up like this, people tend to "dig in". Let us pray that Fr. Pfeiffer receives the grace to do the right thing -- for the good of the Church and the Resistance.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Ladislaus on November 17, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Sienna629
Quote from: ggreg

The priest permitting it, spoke of Cardinal Ratzinger's involvement in Satanic child abuse/murder, in a videotaped sermon, without a shred of evidence.  That shows a profound lack of good sense, prudence and justice.




There is evidence out there, just surfacing, but the fact that you aren't aware of it doesn't make Father a liar!  Beware of calumny!


But it most certainly shows him to be insanely imprudent ... you discredit anyone you are associated with and anything you stand for when you throw stuff like that out there without at the same time producing the evidence.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: BostonFog on November 17, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: BostonFog
Quote from: Matthew
BostonFog, that was an excellent post!

First-hand information, Catholic attitude, understanding the situation, calls for prayer...

You really brought up a good point about hardening of the heart.

When things blow up like this, people tend to "dig in". Let us pray that Fr. Pfeiffer receives the grace to do the right thing -- for the good of the Church and the Resistance.

     I need to apologize for the criminal comment. This was a personal offense against me and I should not have made it public. I am not aware of anything else criminal that he has done.
      As for Pablo's self-proclaimed authority, it is entirely self appointed. The priest's have not given him any authority.
        Please don't dump all of Boston in with 'the retention of Pablo'. I don't know one person here who wants to see him stay. We are all praying hard for him to leave!
         If you speak to Fr about Pablo, do not call him Pablo, but use his real name, Paul Hernandez. Fr. Refuses to talk about Pablo, as if he doesn't exist because he considers it a derogatory name. You might, just maybe, make headway (no guarantees) if you talk to him about Paul.
Finally, I only made the original post to try to convince people not to leave the Resistance. Please, don't base your decisions on anything Pablo related. Thats just what the devil wants you to do. I have good reason to believe his intent is to destroy. Give Fr's P and H a chance (and more chances if you feel you're running out). These priest's love souls like I have never seen, and it tears my heart to see their personalities weaken in the presence of Pablo. Pablo must go and the Resistance must continue on! Persevere, please and remember why you are in the Resistance. You're not here for the (unfortunate) drama. You are here for the Faith!
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Charlotte NC Bill on November 17, 2014, 09:01:34 PM
Hey, if bad-intentioned people aren't persecuting you you're probably doing something wrong ( or more accurately-not doing enough things right )..Persecution is a badge of honor..Pablo was an altar server at my wedding ( by Fr. Pfeiffer )...Fr. Jack Murphy of LI was there also. I was a chauffeur for Fr. Chazal. Confirmed by Bp Williamson...I could stop breathing easier than I could stop supporting the Resistance.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: brianhope on November 18, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
Quote from: BostonFog
Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Amateur Exorcist) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.

Pablo doesn't typically travel with the priests. Ocassionally, yes, but not often.


I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Centroamerica on November 18, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: BostonFog
Quote from: brianhope
Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
!!!!!!!!

"hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

Someone, please help me understand.  
How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
Does he travel with Father P?
Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Amateur Exorcist) exploits as a lay exorcist:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.

Pablo doesn't typically travel with the priests. Ocassionally, yes, but not often.


I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.


That's a fair assesment.  I was at the 2012 ordinations so I recall that that was the first I had heard of him.  However, this leaves me wondering, if he doesn't travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, how does it get every video recording that Fr. Pfeiffer preaches and upload them to his you-tube channel? This suggests a very strong collaboration between the two of them.  Does it not?
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: MaterDominici on November 18, 2014, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: Centroamerica
 However, this leaves me wondering, if he doesn't travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, how does it get every video recording that Fr. Pfeiffer preaches and upload them to his you-tube channel? This suggests a very strong collaboration between the two of them.  Does it not?


Reapeating myself from another thread:

Quote
The Resistance priests provide nearly all of the content for one site and most of it for the other. If they don't approve of how those sites are being managed and the webmaster refuses to pass the job on to someone else, the obvious solution is to simply stop providing them content.

Father Pfeiffer commented a long time ago that he had no shortage of people offering to provide help with Internet operations.


Furthermore, if someone is purporting to represent you on a website but in fact posts content contrary to your actual positions, you'd more likely be seeking legal action than keeping them on as your cook.
Title: Pablo explodes - Matthew publicly admonishes him
Post by: Elizabeth on November 18, 2014, 11:10:12 PM
Quote from: brianhope
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I know that Pablo doesn't normally accompany Father Pfeiffer on mission runs or world travels, and I have no idea just how often he really does travel with him. But from my very limited knowledge of Father's travels, I can think of four occasions Pablo was with him at various outings including Ordinations in Winona 2012, a surprise visit to Bishop Tissier in Chicago last year, the celebrations in Vienna, VA summer last year, and a surprise visit to a friend's house (in another part of the country) a while back. And it seems like so many people who've known Fr. P for long have met PtM at one time or another. So I guess I extrapolated a little, and yes, "occasionally" may have been more accurate.


The "surprise visit" to Chicago with Pablo's video caused a huge rift with Bp. Tissier. The priests would have been aware of the outrage expressed by the bishop at the publication by a couple of Fr. Phieffer's fans (members of 2 forums after Pablo was banned from both).

So, there are probably other laypeople who send Pablo videos.