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Offline Geremia

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Re: The danger of schism
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 12:35:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on January 22, 2018, 04:53:56 PM
    Rumor has it that Bp. Fellay either doesn’t want to be re-elected or would turn down a nomination if asked. Who knows?
    Who are the likely "papabili"?
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    Re: The danger of schism
    « Reply #16 on: January 24, 2018, 02:35:57 PM »
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    • The rumour about bishop fellay possibly resigning is a lie.

    He will be there for life.

    Mark my words.
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    Re: The danger of schism
    « Reply #17 on: January 24, 2018, 04:08:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on January 24, 2018, 11:24:56 AM
    And how does that logic apply to Novus Ordo Watch? They are sedevacvantists, yet they have built a whole "apostolate" on "caring" what the Conciliar Church thinks.
    Caring what the Conciliar Church "authority" thinks/does/says is completely different than caring what that "authority" thinks of them.  NOW absolutely does not care about the latter.
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    Re: The danger of schism
    « Reply #18 on: January 25, 2018, 05:54:52 AM »
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    • Of course, disaffection has given rise to many alternatives to the mainstream status quo. None-Catholics and the children of the revolution would say the world is littered with autonomous varieties and deriviatives of Christianity and such fragmentation ceases to be surprising. The Society would hint about the dangers of schism never wanting to be just one of the numerous many. Yet the fact is a half century of independence may be just dandy and if Rome gives it some approval more the better. The passage of time where hardened ideological differences can be quietly eroded has played a big part in the Society's original mission (though it lacked clarity) being discarded and talk of schism is for internal purposes in order to keep the flock ring-fenced. And this last point will show exactly how like every other separate body the Society has become. Who cares who runs the outfit in future? The Swiss banker psychology has take over and the balance sheet rules the day. 
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    Re: The danger of schism
    « Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 08:25:16 AM »
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    • This turning small communities into some kind of ghetto's is a derogatory name tagging. They did this around the time of Vatican II. I know because i'm old enough to have lived through it. This was a tactic used by Modernists to make catholic laity think they were somehow less than their non-Catholic neighbor. They needed to drop their defenses and join the rest of the world,"modernize ". Their tactic worked for the most part. So Pius X Leadership wants to use the same playbook or parts of it.The Fight goes on. Prayer and Sacrifice are the remedy's, pray The Archbishop Lefevre intercedes for the good of The Society.
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    Re: The danger of schism
    « Reply #20 on: August 23, 2025, 02:40:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on January 23, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
    I think there is room for both methods:

    1. "Focus on rebuilding". Yes that is true, we must all do are part in this.
    2. "Ramp-up arguments, meetings, and campaigns to persuade those SSPX priests on the fence." Yes, this is needed also. Although there might not be many left, but there are a few that would be wiling to leave the SSPX if enough people (preferably Resistance Bishops and Priests) reached out to them and made it know they are still welcome and there is no hard feelings.
    Your original post was excellent and really set the stage for discussion. Looking back from 2025, I wonder: with the Neo-SSPX now fully entrenched since 2012, how do we evaluate “rebuilding” versus “persuading priests on the fence”? Are there still any truly persuadable priests left, or has the landscape shifted so much that what was possible in 2018 is no longer realistic? What does authentic fidelity demand of us now in terms of outreach and discernment?
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