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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2023, 01:46:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on May 17, 2023, 12:37:13 PM
    Precious little comfort to the souls that are lost !

    That wasn't my point.  I was expressing my disbelief that politics could be involved when the stakes for souls is so high.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #16 on: May 17, 2023, 02:57:06 PM »
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    • I wasn't disagreeing with you.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #17 on: May 17, 2023, 06:47:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kephapaulos on May 16, 2023, 09:58:21 PM
    I know. Ever since after 2020, current SSPX priest assignments have not been posted. I second SeanJohnson on the transparency aspect of the situation. I understand that things have to be planned carefully, but action needs to be carried out at appropriate times as well without appearance of deception.
    when our current priest was transferred to our parish last year, he said he found out from a bulletin. 
    This could just be partly due to administrative incompetence. 
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #18 on: May 17, 2023, 07:24:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on May 17, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
    A tangled web they weave when they practice to deceive.

    And who shall reap the spoils,
    of Huonder's unholy oils,
    to deprive what what can see,
    of sacramental validity.
    That's very good Kaz!
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #19 on: May 17, 2023, 07:29:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 17, 2023, 12:26:46 PM
    Yes, I would be very ill at ease if I were SSPX faithful in Europe faced with the prospect of not receiving valid Extreme Unction as I neared death ... depending on whether the priest came equipped with Huonder oils.  While the priest could give you valid absolution and Holy Viaticuм, the validity of Extreme Unction depends on valid holy oils, and great graces come with that Sacrament to assist the dying.

    This is the great responsibility of those SSPX superiors.  If Catholics pass away without the Sacrament and some perhaps end up losing their souls because they were not fortified by its graces, it's all on them and they'll be held accountable for this.  WHY PLAY POLITICS WHEN THE STAKES ARE SO HIGH?  We should be "tutiorist" where it comes to the salvation of souls.  And let's get it straight that this is all about politics, where they can't admit positive doubt because Rome would not appreciate it.
    Well put, Ladislaus. That sums it up. What will it take to make these priests stand up and fight?
    We'd better bring this thread back on track: SSPX priest moves 2023: May 2023 be the year they all move their mouths to cry wolf and defend their flocks from the very real danger to souls now in the heart of the SSPX. Fathers, you have a grave responsibility!
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #20 on: May 27, 2023, 10:50:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 16, 2023, 11:26:30 AM

    Looks like the SSPX's politburo is bringing their most trusted team members to headquarters to prepare for some big changes.
    Liberals all.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #21 on: May 27, 2023, 11:08:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on May 16, 2023, 02:21:29 PM

    Father Yves le Roux, currently Rector of St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary in Dillwyn, Virginia, USA, will take charge of the District of Canada on December 31st, 2023.

    Am I the only one to see the significance of this?

    Fr. Le Roux was transferred to STAS in Winona, MN **FROM CANADA** for the start of the August 2003 academic year. It was to be the last few months of my seminary experience. I only made it 3 months under Fr. Le Roux.

    So he's being sent BACK to Canada after exactly 20 years at the helm of the American seminary?
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #22 on: May 27, 2023, 01:14:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on May 27, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
    Am I the only one to see the significance of this?

    Fr. Le Roux was transferred to STAS in Winona, MN **FROM CANADA** for the start of the August 2003 academic year. It was to be the last few months of my seminary experience. I only made it 3 months under Fr. Le Roux.

    So he's being sent BACK to Canada after exactly 20 years at the helm of the American seminary?
    Dear Matthew,
    Please be so kind as to explain the significance.  I am hoping that the "Dialogue Mass" will leave the seminary with Fr. Le Roux.  Could you share your experience?  Is he affiliated with GREC?  Thank you for any clarification.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #23 on: May 27, 2023, 06:58:53 PM »
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    • Has the clergy in a monastery or seminary ever responded and participated out loud in some of the prayers at mass before Vat II?
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #24 on: May 27, 2023, 07:30:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on May 17, 2023, 07:24:16 PM
    That's very good Kaz!
    A belated thanks :cowboy:
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #25 on: May 27, 2023, 07:39:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on May 27, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
    Am I the only one to see the significance of this?

    Fr. Le Roux was transferred to STAS in Winona, MN **FROM CANADA** for the start of the August 2003 academic year. It was to be the last few months of my seminary experience. I only made it 3 months under Fr. Le Roux.

    So he's being sent BACK to Canada after exactly 20 years at the helm of the American seminary?

    What is Fr. le Roux like? I don't know much about him.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #26 on: May 27, 2023, 09:27:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on May 27, 2023, 06:58:53 PM
    Has the clergy in a monastery or seminary ever responded and participated out loud in some of the prayers at mass before Vat II?

    I don't know, but my guess is that it happened in seminaries before Vatican II to test out the dialogue Mass allowance. 

    I am not a huge fan of it myself. 
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #27 on: May 27, 2023, 09:29:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Texana on May 27, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
    Dear Matthew,
    Please be so kind as to explain the significance.  I am hoping that the "Dialogue Mass" will leave the seminary with Fr. Le Roux.  Could you share your experience?  Is he affiliated with GREC?  Thank you for any clarification.

    Well, the Seminary formation program changed a lot under him, so he's obviously "on board" the changes in the SSPX. He's a company man.
    I don't know how much he directly participated in GREC, but it doesn't matter since he has steadfastly promoted an accord/reconciliation with the Conciliar Church. 

    I just thought it odd that he was sent back to where he started, and after exactly 20 years.
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #28 on: May 27, 2023, 10:15:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Texana on May 27, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
    I am hoping that the "Dialogue Mass" will leave the seminary with Fr. Le Roux.  
    Your hopes will be in vain, Texana! It is custom throughout all the seminaries of the SSPX and was established by Archbishop Lefebvre. I know it was certainly in use in France before the Council. Wikipedia says Rome first approved it in 1922. We'd best not let that debate derail this thread...
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    Re: SSPX priest moves 2023
    « Reply #29 on: May 27, 2023, 10:35:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: frankielogue on May 27, 2023, 07:39:39 PM
    What is Fr. le Roux like? I don't know much about him.
    You can probably find letters he's written on the STAS website, and watch some of his sermons on their YT channel to get a glimpse of what he's like. I imagine some of the more revealing stories about what kind of a man he is would come from priests formed by him. They will have quite a different perspective than what the faithful can get.
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