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Offline SeanJohnson

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SSPX Masked at Lourdes
« on: October 25, 2020, 07:25:22 PM »
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    • From a French Resistance Forum post by Joseph:

    "Is it really honoring the Blessed Virgin Mary at Lourdes by putting on the mask of the beast?? 

    Perhaps (surely) this was the price the FSSPX had to pay to enter the sanctuary. In that case, it would have been necessary to shake off the sandals and go elsewhere to honor the Immaculate with her face uncovered."

    https://resistance.vraiforum.com/t1273-Venez-a-Lourdes-avec-l-actuelle-FSSPX.htm
















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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2020, 07:27:44 PM »
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    • This one is particularly ironic:

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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #2 on: October 25, 2020, 07:42:03 PM »
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    • How about a large group of religious enters Lourdes, masked.  Once inside, they discover to their great joy, they’ve all been healed of COVID! It’s yet another miracle!  Hang those masks on the wall with the collection of crutches, canes, etc.  A simple test can provide “proof” that not one is sick!
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #3 on: October 26, 2020, 02:36:02 AM »
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    • They blasphemously insult God's creation when they suggest that His only rational creation in the physical realm -- man -- lacks the reasoning, sensory, and intellectual faculties to determine IF HE IS FEELING SICK OR NOT.

    By attacking the truth they're indirectly attacking God. God is the Truth, the devil is the father of lies. I've never seen so many lies, contradictions, and truth inversions as I've seen surrounding this COVID madness.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 08:29:35 AM »
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    • I hate the new-sspx's liberalization as much as anyone, but the criticism over mask wearing IN FRANCE is juvenile and unfair.  France doesn't have what little protections/freedom that we still have here.  We've all heard the horror stories from NY and CA.  In Poland, a priest was arrested for saying mass and you think France is less communist than Poland?  Fat chance.  Do you want the entire new-sspx to go to jail over avoiding a mask?  What will that solve?  Nothing.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #5 on: October 26, 2020, 08:47:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 26, 2020, 08:29:35 AM
    I hate the new-sspx's liberalization as much as anyone, but the criticism over mask wearing IN FRANCE is juvenile and unfair.  France doesn't have what little protections/freedom that we still have here.  We've all heard the horror stories from NY and CA.  In Poland, a priest was arrested for saying mass and you think France is less communist than Poland?  Fat chance.  Do you want the entire new-sspx to go to jail over avoiding a mask?  What will that solve?  Nothing.
    I mean I think the counter would be to offer mass "underground" in private homes or whatnot.  I suppose that would come down to just how draconian the situation in France is, and how serious one takes the masking issue.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #6 on: October 26, 2020, 08:53:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 26, 2020, 08:29:35 AM
    I hate the new-sspx's liberalization as much as anyone, but the criticism over mask wearing IN FRANCE is juvenile and unfair.  France doesn't have what little protections/freedom that we still have here.  We've all heard the horror stories from NY and CA.  In Poland, a priest was arrested for saying mass and you think France is less communist than Poland?  Fat chance.  Do you want the entire new-sspx to go to jail over avoiding a mask?  What will that solve?  Nothing.

    Macron and his ancient jewess "Mommy" wife have aggressively locked down France.



    The jews fear a Catholic awakening and uprising from a country known as the Daughter of the Catholic Church.



    For example, in the past 6 months, they've used many mossad-style tactics to try and crush the Yellow Vest movement.

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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #7 on: October 26, 2020, 08:59:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on October 26, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
    Macron and his ancient jewess "Mommy" wife have aggressively locked down France.



    The jews fear a Catholic awakening and uprising from a country known as the Daughter of the Catholic Church.



    For example, in the past 6 months, they've used many mossad-style tactics to try and crush the Yellow Vest movement.
    That doesn't meaningfully interact with Pax's point because Pax is arguing against how the SSPX should respond.  As far as I can tell he's not disputing that the mandates themselves are tyrannical.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #8 on: October 26, 2020, 09:06:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on October 26, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
    The jews fear a Catholic awakening and uprising from a country known as the Daughter of the Catholic Church.
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    I highly doubt this.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #9 on: October 26, 2020, 10:13:35 AM »
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    I mean I think the counter would be to offer mass "underground" in private homes or whatnot.

    Over a mask?  How are you going to cram hundreds of people into a few basements?  And how are you going to do it, without next door neighbors calling the police?  Is a priest supposed to say 5 masses a day, at different houses of 40 people?  It doesn't make sense.
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    My point is, people are criticizing the new-sspx for wearing masks, yet they've not grasped the situation that the new-sspx IN FRANCE, has no choice.  People in NY and CA have no choice either.  Welcome to the start of tyranny.  Tyranny is the "new normal".  People criticizing this or that aren't "woke" to the reality that there's no more freedom.  The uncharitableness and naivety of the criticisms for wearing masks is astounding.  The mask issue is a distraction.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #10 on: October 26, 2020, 10:48:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 26, 2020, 10:13:35 AM
    Over a mask?  How are you going to cram hundreds of people into a few basements?  And how are you going to do it, without next door neighbors calling the police?  Is a priest supposed to say 5 masses a day, at different houses of 40 people?  It doesn't make sense.
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    My point is, people are criticizing the new-sspx for wearing masks, yet they've not grasped the situation that the new-sspx IN FRANCE, has no choice.  People in NY and CA have no choice either.  Welcome to the start of tyranny.  Tyranny is the "new normal".  People criticizing this or that aren't "woke" to the reality that there's no more freedom.  The uncharitableness and naivety of the criticisms for wearing masks is astounding.  The mask issue is a distraction.

    Disagree.

    Two gym owners in New Jersey have been defying the Governor for 8 months, and their gym was still open, last I heard.

    They’ve gone to jail at least twice, and when they get out, they tear the boards off their doors and open again.

    The SSPX is just going along to get along.  I don’t buy for a minute “they have no choice.”

    Everyone has a choice, and the more this “go along to get along” “we have no choice” schtick catches on (ie., compliance), the more they sell us all down the river.

    Too bad Catholics weren’t as passionate about keeping their churches open as gym rats are about keeping their gyms open.
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #11 on: October 26, 2020, 10:50:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on October 26, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
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    I highly doubt this.

    I'll defend my statement as follows:

    In past lectures, Bp. Williamson has come to the defense of the French, saying that when they have the Faith, they are the most formidable national intellectual force within the Catholic Church.    And furthermore, if you scratch the surface of France, it's still Catholic.

    Currently, the jews are controlling and monitoring France like no other country. 
    The government controls the internet and since the torching of Notre Dame, it's hard to get solid information on what's happening there.

    An example of the potential volatility of an anti-тαℓмυdic uprising is the French comedian, Diendonne M'bala M'bala



    He rallied the country by mocking France's Jєωιѕн masters. 

    International jewery has labeled him an αnтι-ѕємιтє, prosecuted him and is doing everything in their power to squash Diendonne and the Yellow Vest Movement.

    Example article: Link
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #12 on: October 26, 2020, 10:52:01 AM »
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    • The idea of attacking religious brothers and sisters who have given their whole life to serving God and administering traditional Catholic faithful over wearing piece of cloth on their face is bizzare. This anti-mask obsession of some people is getting as unreasonable as that COVID hysterics who wear masks when alone in their house...
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #13 on: October 26, 2020, 10:52:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on October 26, 2020, 08:59:37 AM
    That doesn't meaningfully interact with Pax's point because Pax is arguing against how the SSPX should respond.  As far as I can tell he's not disputing that the mandates themselves are tyrannical.
    Gee, I thought you'd make the connection that when in France, the French SSPX does as the French do... or risk getting arrested ? :popcorn:
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    Re: SSPX Masked at Lourdes
    « Reply #14 on: October 26, 2020, 10:54:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: SAP1571 on October 26, 2020, 10:52:01 AM
    The idea of attacking religious brothers and sisters who have given their whole life to serving God and administering traditional Catholic faithful over wearing piece of cloth on their face is bizzare. This anti-mask obsession of some people is getting as unreasonable as that COVID hysterics who wear masks when alone in their house...
    I wonder if you’ll be as cavalier when they come to give you the “vaccine?”
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