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Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2026, 10:27:32 AM »
Quote from: Infirmus on January 16, 2026, 05:42:55 AM
Pressure on the Vatican? They are working together, Fr Pagliriani only mentions no mandate consecration to give a false hope to the hardliners in the SSPX. Those who think that there are talks with Rome are nowhere near understanding what is going on. Rome dictates to the SSPX, period. Every move is a calculated move by Rome.

True. Specially with +Fellay being a Judge of the Roman Rota.

One thing seems certain, the Prelature will be announced when the indults end and they already have. Some commumities are waiting for special extention and they have not gotten it which means it will be soon, maybe this summer.

But we know that the SSPX Prelature will only be allowed to use the 1962 Missal "temporarely" and will have to do the "new missal" already waiting for them which will be the "reform of the reform" missal.
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Offline Twice dyed

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Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2026, 11:02:26 AM »
Quote from: Infirmus on January 16, 2026, 05:42:55 AM
Quote from: Infirmus 1/16/2026, 5:42:55 AM
"... Those who think that there are talks with Rome are nowhere near understanding what is going on..."
Just a month ago we witnessed a grand 50 th Anniversary for Fr. Schmidberger, complete with Novus Ordo bishop blessing a chasuble, and a framed congratulations signed Statement from Our Holy Father Pope Leo XIV,  delicious banquet, but no cigars.  + Fellay had a huge smile. So really, there has to be some communication between neo-SSPX and neo-Rome, just for the logistics of organizing the big gala, invitations, announcements, press coverage...it was a remarkable day. We can presume "THEY" are discussing  the 'new bishops" wheeling and dealing ...So who's playing games here? They are bent on this "Recognition" by Rome since 2012, and that is sadly their attitude  'hodie'.



Anyway, here is a very short note from the Africa District, Dec. 2025 AD.:


https://fsspx.africa/en/news/nova-et-vetera-december-2025-55983
Excerpt:
"...Marcel Lefebvre emerged as the defender of the faith against the Church’s self‑destruction. This long history—marked by the utter disregard for canon law on the part of those who condemned the Archbishop—has been recounted by numerous learned authors...
The 1988 Consecrations
...The survival of the SSPX was ensured in 1988 when Archbishop Lefebvre decided to consecrate four new bishops for the Society. This “survival operation,” as he himself called it, was sanctioned by a so‑called excommunication, pronounced in John Paul II’s letter Ecclesia Dei Adflicta.

Has the Situation Changed?
The recent Mater Populi Fidelis “note” concerning the Virgin Mary—among many other publications and decisions—proves that present‑day Rome continues to pursue its “modernist and neoliberal” policies. This reality justifies, if need be, the Society’s consecration of new bishops who will perform priestly ordinations for future generations.

Questions That Remain
  • How many bishops will be consecrated?
  • When will these consecrations take place?..."
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Pope St. Marcel I, Pray for us!

Photo of St. Marcellus: https://www.vaticanstate.va/en/state-and-government/general-informations/saint-of-the-day/3451-january-16-saint-marcellus-i-pope.html
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Offline Incredulous

Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2026, 01:12:18 PM »
Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora on January 16, 2026, 10:27:32 AM

But we know that the SSPX Prelature will only be allowed to use the 1962 Missal "temporarely" and will have to do the "new missal" already waiting for them which will be the "reform of the reform" missal.

Wow... But will their faithful realize the difference of the reformed 62' Missal ?  :popcorn:


And if they do, guess they could hire a jew-publishing house to paste "Quo Primum" in the front pages to fake em out.  



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Offline Incredulous

Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2026, 01:23:20 PM »
Quote from: Twice dyed on January 16, 2026, 11:02:26 AM
Just a month ago we witnessed a grand 50 th Anniversary for Fr. Schmidberger, complete with Novus Ordo bishop blessing a chasuble, and a framed congratulations signed Statement from Our Holy Father Pope Leo XIV,  delicious banquet, but no cigars.  + Fellay had a huge smile. So really, there has to be some communication between neo-SSPX and neo-Rome, just for the logistics of organizing the big gala, invitations, announcements, press coverage...it was a remarkable day. We can presume "THEY" are discussing  the 'new bishops" wheeling and dealing ...So who's playing games here? They are bent on this "Recognition" by Rome since 2012, and that is sadly their attitude  'hodie'.



Anyway, here is a very short note from the Africa District, Dec. 2025 AD.:


https://fsspx.africa/en/news/nova-et-vetera-december-2025-55983
Excerpt:
"...Marcel Lefebvre emerged as the defender of the faith against the Church’s self‑destruction. This long history—marked by the utter disregard for canon law on the part of those who condemned the Archbishop—has been recounted by numerous learned authors...
The 1988 Consecrations
...The survival of the SSPX was ensured in 1988 when Archbishop Lefebvre decided to consecrate four new bishops for the Society. This “survival operation,” as he himself called it, was sanctioned by a so‑called excommunication, pronounced in John Paul II’s letter Ecclesia Dei Adflicta.

Has the Situation Changed?
The recent Mater Populi Fidelis “note” concerning the Virgin Mary—among many other publications and decisions—proves that present‑day Rome continues to pursue its “modernist and neoliberal” policies. This reality justifies, if need be, the Society’s consecration of new bishops who will perform priestly ordinations for future generations.

Questions That Remain
  • How many bishops will be consecrated?
  • When will these consecrations take place?..."
********************

Pope St. Marcel I, Pray for us!

Photo of St. Marcellus: https://www.vaticanstate.va/en/state-and-government/general-informations/saint-of-the-day/3451-january-16-saint-marcellus-i-pope.html

Very good point! 

Announcing the possibility of SSPX internal Consecrations could be a feint

The SSPX has learned many political PR tricks from captive Rome in recent years.
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Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2026, 03:41:46 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on January 17, 2026, 01:12:18 PM
Wow... But will their faithful realize the difference of the reformed 62' Missal ?  :popcorn:


And if they do, guess they could hire a jew-publishing house to paste "Quo Primum" in the front pages to fake em out. 



Any one interested can go to the link below where that has been discussed before:

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/a-step-for-the-regularization-of-the-sspx-dissolution-of-ecclesia-dei/
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