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Offline poche

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Re: SSPX Deathwish
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 02:20:52 AM »
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    • The SSPX will now have its first officially permitted bi-ritual priest.
     We don't know that that is what the result would be. It could also be that there will be more opportunities for the military families to experience the TLM in circuмstances where it would ordinarily not be available. 
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #16 on: July 02, 2018, 06:30:35 AM »
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    • Poche,

    Your supposition means:

    To have access to bring the 1962 hybrid mass to the military, the SSPX will officially accept the bastard mass.

    Your lack of discernment is legendary :facepalm:
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #17 on: July 02, 2018, 09:21:05 AM »
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    • Here is a clarification from Archbishop Broglio in a message sent to Sean Johnson: 

    Dear Mr. Johnson,
     
    Father Cannon referred your message to me.
     
    First of all, your characterization of my statement about priests of the two societies in communion with the Holy See and chaplaincy is simply incorrect.
    My statement was that priests in the military must be able to be all things to all people and consequently must be able and willing to celebrate the Mass according to the Third Edition of the Roman Missal.
     
    Secondly, without violating the confidentiality that a priest can expect from any diocese, I can make the following statements:
     
    I missed the detail that the press released contained the names of the dioceses or religious communities of the participants.  Normally that information would not be published.  I regret my error.
     
    It is unclear to me why you need the clarifications you requested.
     
    Finally, the priest in question desires full communion with the Catholic Church.  I have helped many men and some families on that journey and I do not intend to stop now.
     
    Thank you for your interest.
     
    Sincerely in Christ,
    +Timothy Broglio
     
    The Most Reverend Timothy P. Broglio
    Archbishop for the Military Services, USA
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #18 on: July 02, 2018, 11:04:38 AM »
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    • The SSPX is a part of the conciliar apparatus now. This is a wasted thread. Can you tell us something that we don't already  know?
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #19 on: July 02, 2018, 11:00:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: obscurus on July 02, 2018, 09:21:05 AM
    Here is a clarification from Archbishop Broglio in a message sent to Sean Johnson:

    Dear Mr. Johnson,
     
    Father Cannon referred your message to me.
     
    First of all, your characterization of my statement about priests of the two societies in communion with the Holy See and chaplaincy is simply incorrect.
    My statement was that priests in the military must be able to be all things to all people and consequently must be able and willing to celebrate the Mass according to the Third Edition of the Roman Missal.
     
    Secondly, without violating the confidentiality that a priest can expect from any diocese, I can make the following statements:
     
    I missed the detail that the press released contained the names of the dioceses or religious communities of the participants.  Normally that information would not be published.  I regret my error.
     
    It is unclear to me why you need the clarifications you requested.
     
    Finally, the priest in question desires full communion with the Catholic Church.  I have helped many men and some families on that journey and I do not intend to stop now.
     
    Thank you for your interest.
     
    Sincerely in Christ,
    +Timothy Broglio
     
    The Most Reverend Timothy P. Broglio
    Archbishop for the Military Services, USA
    Could it be that this priest is leaving the SSPX?
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #20 on: July 03, 2018, 07:34:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 01, 2018, 06:03:44 AM
    Hey Wessex what IS your experience with military Chaplains?  
    I’ve spent and am spending over 20 years in the military.  Not once, not once, have I met a chaplain as you described above.  Regardless of denomination, they have all been kind compassionate and even COURAGEOUS in the field of battle.  Some even risking their very lives to bring comfort and solice to those suffering both physically and spiritually.  If you feel “from your experience” that they seriously crave the company of young men what have you done to address this issue?  Who did you report this too?  What was your proof?
    Every chaplain I’ve ever met have been true American Heroes who put themselves in harms way, even gunfire and frontline action, to pray with the wounded and ask for God’s grace.
    Not so much the military but have ceased to be shocked at what passes for chaplains in UK universities. Going into these institutions would be a horror story for any follower of the true creed and with them adopting all the legalised gender perversions I cannot see any active traditionalist priest ever wanting or being allowed a place there. Which leads us to wonder about the type that would.
     
    Your Hollywood version of men and chaplains under fire makes for good PR and political kudos. I know there is a school that believes warfare is good for its own sake because it can bring out the best in humans in extreme situations ..... but I think I would be asking too many questions for my own good. I am not happy with justifications like "saving the free world" or "preserving liberty" when the opposite seems to be the case. "God is on our side" was once a battle cry ..... but this wild assumption needs updating to have an equally dramatic psychological effect.  

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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #21 on: July 03, 2018, 07:41:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 01, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
    Last week I had to take two trains, two hours each way to get to the closest Latin Mass that I could find...and this was in northern ITALY of all places.  How wonderful would it be to have the True Mass right there on base?  

    The Military NEEDS to have the Traditional Mass restored to it’s chapels. The chaplaincy makes exceptions for all denominations and all flavors of religion.  Let us pray that they allow this priest to enter the Chaplains Corps without compromising the Traditional Catholic faith.  Our men and woman in uniform DESPERATELY need it!
    Would the "women in uniform" be wearing trousers to Mass?
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #22 on: July 03, 2018, 07:43:28 AM »
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    • Wessex, you owe an apology to all Military Chaplains that you recently besmirched.  By your very tongue you pretended to have knowledge of these Officers when in fact you had and have none.  Shame on you.  No “Hollywood Version” in my description, just cold hard facts!  True Heroes!  

    Now go repent for your slander...shame...shame...shame!  You should be embarrassed!
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #23 on: July 03, 2018, 07:46:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Wessex on July 03, 2018, 07:41:53 AM
    Would the "women in uniform" be wearing trousers to Mass?
    Shame on you!  Your lack of charity is repulsive.  Self righteousness is appalling.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #24 on: July 03, 2018, 10:39:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Wessex on July 03, 2018, 07:41:53 AM
    Would the "women in uniform" be wearing trousers to Mass?
    At least they are coming to mass. If they are on duty and they use their break time to go to mass then they are offering a sacrifice. We realize that that is not what is preferred but sometimes we all have to make little sacrifices to save our souls.      
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #25 on: July 03, 2018, 11:20:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on July 03, 2018, 07:46:43 AM
    Shame on you!  Your lack of charity is repulsive.  Self righteousness is appalling.
    A Nation that calls on It's woman to defend it's self, is not a Nation worthy of defence!
    Before you go jumping my case like you did Wessex's, I do come from a military background. I probably would have persude a military career if it weren't for the perversion of "woman" being allowed to enter the military, and many other reasons as well... it was the primary reason for my father leaving it back in the 50's. What a perversion! 
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #26 on: July 04, 2018, 05:20:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on July 03, 2018, 11:20:34 PM
    A Nation that calls on It's woman to defend it's self, is not a Nation worthy of defence!
    Before you go jumping my case like you did Wessex's, I do come from a military background. I probably would have persude a military career if it weren't for the perversion of "woman" being allowed to enter the military, and many other reasons as well... it was the primary reason for my father leaving it back in the 50's. What a perversion!
    The U.S. has NEVER “called on woman to defend itself”.  NEVER.  They were never included in any mandatory draft, not even during Vietnam. Thank goodness Patriotic woman have volunteered to serve in the military since the founding of this Nation.
    Lessons learned from Vietnam was that the best military is a volunteer military.  There has not been a draft since.

    St. Joan of Arc...PRAY FOR US!
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #27 on: July 04, 2018, 05:31:16 AM »
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    • So Iggy, I’m a bit confused, what IS your military background?  First you say you have a military background and then you say you chose not to pursue a military career because patriotic woman volunteer to put their life on the line and step in harms way to defend the life and liberty of all Americans.  
    What branch of the Armed Forces did you serve in?
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #28 on: July 04, 2018, 09:19:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Wessex on July 03, 2018, 07:34:42 AM
    Not so much the military but have ceased to be shocked at what passes for chaplains in UK universities. Going into these institutions would be a horror story for any follower of the true creed and with them adopting all the legalised gender perversions I cannot see any active traditionalist priest ever wanting or being allowed a place there. Which leads us to wonder about the type that would.
      
    Your Hollywood version of men and chaplains under fire makes for good PR and political kudos. I know there is a school that believes warfare is good for its own sake because it can bring out the best in humans in extreme situations ..... but I think I would be asking too many questions for my own good. I am not happy with justifications like "saving the free world" or "preserving liberty" when the opposite seems to be the case. "God is on our side" was once a battle cry ..... but this wild assumption needs updating to have an equally dramatic psychological effect.  
    What in fact the U.S. military's function is, that it serves as the military enforcement arm of the regime, the foot soldiers of international capitol. It has nothing to do with defense of this country. They are a large factor in the spreading of the Luciferian agenda throughout the world.  True the soldiers who are used as fodder for the regime need spiritual resources but there can be much more sound counsel, advice, and true sacraments found apart from the military at present. The worship of the military in our society is proof that God has been supplanted by what has become a force of international mercenaries.  That the SSPX has chosen to join the conciliar church and service this organization is futher proof of their lack of principle.
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    Re: SSPX Deathwish
    « Reply #29 on: July 04, 2018, 10:09:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: JPaul on July 04, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
    What in fact the U.S. military's function is, that it serves as the military enforcement arm of the regime, the foot soldiers of international capitol. It has nothing to do with defense of this country. They are a large factor in the spreading of the Luciferian agenda throughout the world.  True the soldiers who are used as fodder for the regime need spiritual resources but there can be much more sound counsel, advice, and true sacraments found apart from the military at present. The worship of the military in our society is proof that God has been supplanted by what has become a force of international mercenaries.  That the SSPX has chosen to join the conciliar church and service this organization is futher proof of their lack of principle.
    Nicely said by someone who has no clue...!!!  Some comments don’t deserve a reply...pearls on swine!
    You love your freedom to practice your religion as you see fit and then condemn those who put their lives on the line...some even sacrificing it...providing you that freedom!
    Idiot!
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