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Offline JPaul

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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2014, 10:18:36 AM »
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  • The ONLY time that the Jews promote anything, is when to do so, is good for the Jews. It makes no difference if it is true, false, up, down, sideways, or inter- dimensional, if its good for the Jews, they are behind it.

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    « Reply #31 on: September 03, 2014, 12:50:07 PM »
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    The Khazar myth is utter nonsense. Jews are largely semitic according to genetic studies with some minor European admixture. Modern Jews are the descendants of Biblical Israelites, not Khazars.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/αѕнкenαzι_Jews

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    A study of haplotypes of the Y-chromosome, published in 2000, addressed the paternal origins of αѕнкenαzι Jews. Hammer et al.[109] found that the Y-chromosome of αѕнкenαzι and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. This suggested that the male ancestors of the αѕнкenαzι Jews could be traced mostly to the Middle East. The proportion of male genetic admixture in αѕнкenαzι Jews amounts to less than 0.5% per generation over an estimated 80 generations, with "relatively minor contribution of European Y chromosomes to the αѕнкenαzιm," and a total admixture estimate "very similar to Motulsky's average estimate of 12.5%." This supported the finding that "Diaspora Jews from Europe, Northwest Africa, and the Near East resemble each other more closely than they resemble their non-Jєωιѕн neighbors." "Past research found that 50–80 percent of DNA from the αѕнкenαzι Y chromosome, which is used to trace the male lineage, originated in the Near East," Richards said. That supported a story wherein Jews came from Israel and largely eschewed intermarriage when they settled in Europe.


    In my opinion - don't believe the Faux-Jew lies
    (why do you think they own/run all the Global genetic/DNA research and big pharma companies?)

    Cameron Diaz is of Sephardic Jew ancestry - she looks SO Arabic/middle eastern!
    Check out surname 'Diaz'

    http://www.christusrex.org/www2/koestler/

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    As expected, The Thirteenth Tribe caused a stir when published in 1976, since it demolishes ancient racial and ethnic dogmas...At the height of the controversy in 1983, the lifeless bodies of Arthur Koestler and his wife were found in their London home. Despite significant inconsistencies, the police ruled their death a ѕυιcιdє...Another Mossad "ѕυιcιdє"!



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    « Reply #32 on: September 03, 2014, 01:13:02 PM »
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  • glaston:
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    why do you think they (faux jews) own/run all the Global genetic/DNA research and big pharma companies?)


    Well, of course!  That's why I for one will not allow a scoundrel like kv to draw me into a huge DNA controversy.  I know little or nothing about DNA or DNA research.  I suspect that he himself may know even less about the subject.  He just clutters up the topic at hand with multiple links to lengthy and specious arguments and "studies."  It is all done to confuse, to misdirect, to obfuscate the truth, and ultimately to get faux jews, with whom, I suspect, kv is very sympathetic, off the hook. There's a kv or three on any Catholic forum.  I have no patience with them.  Otherwise, I consider myself a very even tempered fellow.   :furtive:

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    « Reply #33 on: September 04, 2014, 01:11:55 PM »
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    The Khazar propaganda undermines the historical and biblical narrative of the Jews, the Chosen people, rejecting their saviour and their destiny. It practically exonerates Jews from any responsibility for the Crucifixion. That's probably why the theory is most enthusiastically promoted by Jews themselves.


    You're a slippery individual, kv. you're telling us that it is only your opinion concerning Jєωιѕн motives for promoting the Khazarian theory.  But you're not expressing opinion about the alleged promotion of that theory by the jews.  You affrim that it "is most enthusiastically promoted by Jews themselves."  I have asked you to provide docuмentary proof of that.  You have not.  You have not provided one article, one video, one comment or remark from a Jєωιѕн source, or one bit of historical data, which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that they "enthusiastically" promote the theory.  As for the continued DNA  discussion, I don't think I want to grab that 'tar baby.'  I'll stick with the conclusions of truly scholarly jews like Koestler and Sand.  Modern jews, particularly Israeli jews, are by and large an "invented" race of people.  They constitute a "13th Tribe," and have no ancestoral link to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph.  BTW, kv, who are those who say they are jews, but are not? (Apoc. 2:9, 3:9)  Any ideas?  Please don't make me sorry I asked.


    I gave you three examples of Jews who actively promote the Khazar theory: Arthur Koestler, Shlomo Sand, and Eran Elhaik.

    Those who say they are Jews, and are not, are those who claim to be the Chosen of God but are no longer of his Covenant, as the Haydock commentary of the Douay Reims Bible affirms.

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    Thou art blasphemed by those false teachers, who call themselves Jews and Israelites, and the chosen people of God, waiting for the coming of the Messias, but are not to be looked upon as such; having refused to own their true Messias, Jesus Christ, they are the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, the greatest enemies of the true faith.


    http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id288.html

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    « Reply #34 on: September 04, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »
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    No particular similarity of αѕнкenαzι Jews with populations from the Caucasus is evident


     :facepalm:


    Why are you facepalming at professional genetic studies published in peer-reviewed journals?  :laugh1: :facepalm:


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    « Reply #35 on: September 04, 2014, 01:21:57 PM »
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    why do you think they (faux jews) own/run all the Global genetic/DNA research and big pharma companies?)


    Well, of course!  That's why I for one will not allow a scoundrel like kv to draw me into a huge DNA controversy.  I know little or nothing about DNA or DNA research.  I suspect that he himself may know even less about the subject.  He just clutters up the topic at hand with multiple links to lengthy and specious arguments and "studies."  It is all done to confuse, to misdirect, to obfuscate the truth, and ultimately to get faux jews, with whom, I suspect, kv is very sympathetic, off the hook. There's a kv or three on any Catholic forum.  I have no patience with them.  Otherwise, I consider myself a very even tempered fellow.   :furtive:


    A simple scan through my posting history will reveal that I am in no way "very sympathetic" towards the Jews. What I am is insistent upon factual accuracy. DNA studies have conclusively demonstrated that the Khazar theory has no basis in reality and that αѕнкenαzι Jews are roughly 70% semitic. That means people who promote the Khazar theory have no credibility anymore.

    You and Glaston argue that the peer-reviewed Journals are owned by Jews and that they manipulate the results in order to conceal the supposed Khazarian origins of the Jews. That's of course a total absurdity, but even if it were somehow true, it wouldn't matter, because studies on Jєωιѕн YDNA consistently demonstrate the same facts no matter what the source. FamilytreeDNA tested submissions for over 2000 Jєωιѕн men from countries as varied as Iraq to Portugal to Poland to Germany and found that most of them had Semitic YDNA lineages.

    You concede that you know nothing about DNA or haplogroups, but can somehow discern that I know nothing about DNA or haplogroups?  :facepalm: Even if that were so, it wouldn't matter one iota, because I'm not providing my own expertise, I'm providing data from academic journals and other professional studies.

    You don't have a leg to stand on.

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    « Reply #36 on: September 04, 2014, 04:48:00 PM »
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  • Please read an article by Texe Marrs.  Mares, I believe, asked Bp. W.  to speak at one of his conferences recently: http://www.texemarrs.com/092013/jews_deny_being_khazars.htm

    So who do you choose to believe, Dr. Eran Elhaik,a Jєωιѕн geneticist out of John Hopkins U., or kV? Apparently, Dr. Elhaik buys into the Khazarian origins pretty completely.

    So who do you choose to believe, Dr. Dan Graur, a world-famous Jєωιѕн geneticist "who served on the faculty of Tel Aviv University for 22 years and is now at the University of Houston," or kV?  Graur testifies, according to Marrs, that Dr. Elhaik’s research is “very honest.” Graur is the recipient of the prestigious Humboldt Award, given to the world’s top biological scientist."

    "In 2001," writes Marrs, "genetics research by Dr. Ariella Oppenheim of Tel Aviv University produced basically the same results as Dr. Elhaik. Oppenheim’s study also found that the Jews origins are in Khazaria, and that they are of Turkic bloodline."

    OK folks, those are three well-known Jєωιѕн scientists, who are certain of the Khazarian roots of most modern so-called jews.  Kv, however, assures us that the Khazarian thesis is a myth, that it's been blown out of the water by "dozens" of truly credible studies.  Whom do you believe, award winning Jєωιѕн scientists of this caliber, or KV, whose credentials are as yet undeclared, and whose identity, at least to me, is completely unknown?

    KV still has failed to reveal who these Jews are who "enthusiastically" promote the Khazarian notion in order to deflect guilt away from themselves for the Crucixion.  




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    « Reply #37 on: September 05, 2014, 08:05:55 PM »
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  • When is Moses going to explain about the Khazars?           :scratchchin:


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    « Reply #38 on: September 08, 2014, 03:13:28 PM »
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  • Good job Hollingsworth...I was wondering when someone was going to mention Tex Marrs who actually wrote a well-researched book about this...Incredible, yes these Zionist Khazars of the late 19th century were truly an army that created a country ( culminating in the terrorism, massacres and wholesale ethnic cleansing in the spring of '48..)..The small amount of land ( about 4% of what they have now ) they did buy was simply a beachhead..

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    « Reply #39 on: September 08, 2014, 10:54:43 PM »
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  • Yes, Texe Marrs does actual research. KV posts specious links to not easily understood "peer group studies."  What really is at stake here is the reaction a Jєωιѕн teacher, quoted by Marrs:

    " They (zionists) want to be Jews, not Khazars," he writes.   They hunger to be included in one of the twelve tribes of Israel. Only if DNA studies go their way can they continue to insist that the Land belongs to them."

    Exactly!  Zionists Khazars are not interested in "enthusiastically" promoting  Khazarian origins.  KV does not supply a single proof of this

    Marrs quotes a Jєωιѕн teacher:“If God.. did not give us the Land as the seed of Abraham, we’re finished. The Palestinians will win the ideological war and the world will turn against us.”

    Well, of course.  Once it is discovered that these are faux jews, i.e.  faux "Chosen"  faux 'children of Israel,' then it is game over!

    This teacher is wrong, anyway, in referring to Israelis as the "seed of Abraham."  St Paul goes out of his way to explain to the Galatians exactly who this "seed"(offspring) is.  Gal. 3:16 tells us that the promises were made to Abraham and his "seed" singular, not to 'seeds.'  And that "seed" is Christ.  This vile bunch inhabiting Palestine today and killing off the true "semites" in the Holy Land are the descendants of ancient Turkish nomads, offspring of Japheth, who roamed between the Caspian and Black Seas.  They are anything but the "seed" or offspring of Abraham.  Even the word "Jew" is misleading.  Jesus told the woman at the well that salvation was "out of the jews," but He did't mean jews as we know them.  The word 'Jew' was not even a lexicon entry then in any language.  "Jews," as translated here. refers to Judaeans, or the Tribe of Judah, from whom the Savior sprang.  He is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.  Jesus was simply telling the woman not to quibble about places of worship.  He informed here that no salvation should arise out of Samaria, but out of Judah.  Jesus was telling this woman that He Himself was the "seed."  She was looking at the "Seed."  The Promise to Abraham was a couple of feet from her.  We trust that she caught on fully later.

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    « Reply #40 on: September 09, 2014, 07:45:10 AM »
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    "peer group studies."


    This usually means Jews agreeing with other Jews.