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Pope Francis forbids SSPX priests to say Mass
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 09:02:16 AM »
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Let's not dismiss this as just another rogue bishop who is anti-Tradition.

The bishop in question works very closely with Pope Francis.

And even if it just affects the SSPX faithful in Italy, that is still 15,000 souls. This is huge news.

This news means that the heat is being turned up on Bishop Fellay. Serious pressure is being brought to bear. Will he have the fortitude to stand up for what's right, or will he cave?


Yes and where does this leave + Fellay's assertion that he was assured by Cardinal Mueller et al that there would be no punishments from Rome back in September ?

This could mean many things: Mueller is in trouble for standing up to Kasper at the Synod and in the book he co-authored before the synod; or Mueller was leading +F up the garden path; or Mueller was himself deceived (a dupe): or the Pope is playing fast and loose with the curia; and on and on and on...

Moral (as you said it Matthew): "Watch out !"

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Pope Francis forbids SSPX priests to say Mass
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2014, 09:40:07 AM »

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/10/pope-close-advisor-and-member-of.html

    Suburbicarian Diocese of Albano

    NOTIFICATION TO PASTORS [PARISH PRIESTS]
    ON THE "SOCIETY OF SAINT PIUS X"




    In the past few weeks, requests of clarification have reached the Diocesan Chancery regarding the celebration of Sacraments at the "Society of Saint Pius X" of Albano Laziale.

    Regarding it, it is right and proper to point out that the above-mentioned "Society" is not an institution (neither parish, nor association) of the Catholic Church.

    This applies even after the decree of the Congregation for Bishops of January 21, 2009, by which the Holy Father Benedict XVI, reaching out in good will in response to reiterated requests by the Superior General of the Society of Saint Pius X, revoked the excommunication in which the four Prelated had incurred since June 30, 1988.

    This was highlighted by Benedict XVI with his Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church of March 10, 2009: "the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers – even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty – do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church." (in AAS CI [2009], n. 4, p. 272). The same Benedict XVI, in the following Letter m. p. Ecclesiae Unitatem, of July 2, 2009, added: "the remission of the excommunication was a measure taken in the context of ecclesiastical discipline to free the individuals from the burden of conscience constituted by the most serious of ecclesiastical penalties. However, the doctrinal questions obviously remain and until they are clarified the Society has no canonical status in the Church and its ministers cannot legitimately exercise any ministry." (in AAS CI [2009], p. 710-711).

    As a consequence of the above, it is right and proper to restate what had been formulated in the Pastoral Note on the Society of Saint Pius X of [former bishop of Albano] Dante Bernini, in which it can be read:

    The Catholic faithful cannot participate at Mass, neither request and/or receive Sacraments from or in the Society. Acting otherwise would mean to break communion with the Catholic Church.

    Therefore, any Catholic faithful who requests and receives Sacraments in the Society of Saint Pius X, will place himself de facto in the condition of no longer being in communion with the Catholic Church. A readmission to the Catholic Church must be preceded by an adequate personal path of reconciliation, according to the ecclesiastical discipline established by the Bishop.

    It is sincerely saddening that such options [measures], particularly when in reference to the Christian Initiation of Children and Adolescents, be in constrast with the pastoral orientations of the Italian Church and, consequently, with the choices of the Diocese of Albano, where formative paths for the growth and maturation of the life of faith are favored.

    To the Parish priests, the duty of providing adequate information to the faithful.

    From the Albano Chancery, October 14, 2014, Prot. 235/14.


    + Marcello Semeraro, Bishop.



Pope Francis forbids SSPX priests to say Mass
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2014, 09:43:57 AM »
Quote from: Matthew
Here is a post from Fr. Z …


My hat is off to you for being able to control your gag reflex long enough to read the rubbish that Zed writes. He combines the most charming qualities of the egomaniac and the bottom feeder in one compact (dare one say off-the-rack-Napoleonic?) frame.

I had the misfortune ten or so years ago to hear him preach once (at Manhattan's Holy Innocents Church). Happily, it was only once. I recall telling a friend that Zed's rhetorical style reminded me of George W. Bush on an especially bad day. I was, alas, being a tad uncharitable to W, since I now realize what I couldn't have known at the time: that Zed's nearest analogue in the secular speechmaking world is Caliph Barak I.

Quote from: ggreg
Less I have to do with those fαɢɢօts and paedo-enablers the better.


This is perhaps not the most generously worded comment ggreg has ever made, but it's one I am in immense sympathy with.

Pope Francis forbids SSPX priests to say Mass
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2014, 11:00:33 AM »
Quote from: claudel
Quote from: Matthew
Here is a post from Fr. Z …


My hat is off to you for being able to control your gag reflex long enough to read the rubbish that Zed writes. He combines the most charming qualities of the egomaniac and the bottom feeder in one compact (dare one say off-the-rack-Napoleonic?) frame.

I had the misfortune ten or so years ago to hear him preach once (at Manhattan's Holy Innocents Church). Happily, it was only once. I recall telling a friend that Zed's rhetorical style reminded me of George W. Bush on an especially bad day. I was, alas, being a tad uncharitable to W, since I now realize what I couldn't have known at the time: that Zed's nearest analogue in the secular speechmaking world is Caliph Barak I.

Quote from: ggreg
Less I have to do with those fαɢɢօts and paedo-enablers the better.


This is perhaps not the most generously worded comment ggreg has ever made, but it's one I am in immense sympathy with.


Which probably accounts for the latest line of items you can buy from him which feature this image:


Check out his full "line" here (source)

The man is completely mad in my opinion but I will give him this - that image perfectly reflects what will happen to Trads who sell out to Francesco !

Pope Francis forbids SSPX priests to say Mass
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2014, 04:09:44 PM »
Quote from: curioustrad
Which probably accounts for the latest line of items you can buy from him which feature this image:


Check out his full "line" here (source)

The man is completely mad in my opinion but I will give him this - that image perfectly reflects what will happen to Trads who sell out to Francesco !


Seriously? He's not only lost most of his marbles, but all his shame to boot (assuming he ever had any)!