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Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2013, 07:09:28 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat
It's a wee bit noteworthy, IMHO, that after the hullabaloo +Fellay conducted in his "consecration of the Society to St. Joseph" (conducted this past March 19th with MUCH FANFARE and anticipation!) now, SIMULTANEOUSLY,  the Carmel that carries his very name is breaking away.  

Could this be a signal grace from St. Joseph himself, protector of Holy Mother Church?

Yes, I think it is a signal. One of several though, but a clear one.

When some time ago I had a conversation with the Carmel's former chaplain who looked after the Carmelites for (I think) 12 years until a few years ago, he underlined several times how dogmatic these Carmelites are (like Archbishop Lefebvre was), and so they would see a potential dogmatic weakness amongst Catholics and societies soon -- and act accordingly. So what these brave Carmelites did and do now seems to be very logical. It's still very delighting but stringent.

In these sick modern times we can easily imagine how pleased God is about the few devout souls (clerics and laypeople) including these Carmelites, because really there are not so many anymore.
And so I'm sure that heaven will take care also of these Carmelites in an eager way, if I may say so. And those people who, for whatever reasons, try to harm such souls -- and you (Neil) named them in your most recent post -- got a mighty opponent.

Let's expect even more rotten fruits to pop up everywhere in and around the Neo-SSPX.
However let's also expect very good fruits coming from those souls who hold up the Faith.


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St. Joseph, pray for us!


Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2013, 10:03:59 AM »
Quote from: bowler
Quote from: Neil Obstat
You currently carry a 296% approval rating on CI with a 100% support base.


From where do you draw these stats?



Look at the data under his username, for example, at the post from whence
I was quoting (it's on page 1 of this thread) ...........


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Quote from: TheRecusant
Yes. we've known about it for a little while. Fr. Schmidberger stole their extern and
their chaplain Fr.Zaby is getting kicked out too... Give me a moment to write some more...
And  all because they said they didn't want to be part of a deal with modern Rome.


It says:
Reputation: 166
(Likers: 7 / Critics: 0)
Group: Members
Posts: 56
Joined: Dec 7, 2012

Take the Rep. figure of 166 and divide it by the number of posts, 56, and
you get 296% which represents the portion of approval marks out of the
quantity of posts from whence they come.  As for the support base, take
the number of likers, 7, and divide by the sum of likers and critics (7 + 0
= 7), so 7 / 7 = 100% -- if someone has 7 likers and 4 critics, for example,
it would be 7 / 11 = 64% support base.


Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2013, 11:54:05 AM »
Mea Culpa observes an important and relevant data point in this deplorable
history:  Fr. Schmidberger writes here attempting to bring opprobrium onto
the Carmel - accusing cloistered traditional sisters of having "bathed
themselves in virtue, while pride and self-righteousness have ensnared
their hearts long ago?" -- WHAT??? -- "stubbornness, self-righteousness,
condescension, criticism, false dialectic, mockery and malice?" -- of being
"an enemy of God?" -- of having had a "downfall" by way of "well-known
weaknesses or pride of its own virtues, and due to "seduction sub specie
boni
– under the disguise of good?" -- of having committed "the highest
injustice?"  ????????


How does he expect anyone to take him seriously????

He should be lucky he doesn't live in the middle ages, when you could get
your tongue cut out for talking like that about holy cloistered nuns!!



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Quote from: Mea Culpa
Quoting Fr. Schmidberger (below)......This seems to be a perfect description of Bp. Fellay and what he's actually doing to the SSPX!!!!


"This separation should remind us all of the warnings of the great Apostle Paul: "He that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12). He does not 'say he who stands', but 'he who thinks that he stands',  precisely because many souls believe themselves in safety; they bathe themselves in virtue, while pride and self-righteousness have ensnared their hearts long ago. Stubbornness, self-righteousness, condescension, criticism, false dialectic, mockery and malice are not the gifts of the Holy Ghost, but characteristics of the adversary of God. It does not matter to him whether he causes the downfall of a soul through its well-known weaknesses, or through its pride of its own virtues. Too often the devil turns into an angel of light and performs his work of seduction sub specie boni – under the disguise of good. If one carries one’s own right too far, for example, the highest injustice can be done."




I'd like to point out that the first time I read this the last paragraph made me
sick and I couldn't think about it.  So thank you, Mea Culpa for bringing it to
my attention with your large type, italics and bold post.  Otherwise I would
have missed it. It was THAT BAD.

One can only wonder - here he is attempting to besmirch the reputation of a
cloister of nuns (shudder!) while his words only serve to exemplify and well
describe the very machinations of his own and those of his boss, +Fellay --
the Menzingen-denizen rap sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


From the article on p. 6:

Secondly, the external sister left the Carmel on 28th February. (An external sister is a Carmelite nun who does not live enclosed and who performs external duties e.g: shopping runs). The external sister from Brilon-Wald had only recently solemnly professed her three religious vows to the Carmel St. Joseph on the Feast of St. Joseph 2012. She, however, did not want to know anything about the happenings in the SSPX and refused to take note of any information. Therefore, she was not by any means ready to follow the step of her community.




Here we find out what happens to someone when they hide their head in the
sand like an ostrich.  The external sister "refused to take note of any
information."

How many are there about town doing just this.  "Consider the source" one
prominent Jew used to say.  When you know who it is that wrote something,
then you can know when to ignore it, basically.  Maybe they're "nαzι."  Maybe
they're "anti-semitic."  Maybe they're part of the "resistance movement" --
shudder at the thought!

How terrible -- to be part of the "resistance movement!!"  

This is an abiding theme that needs its own thread................................





Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2013, 02:32:48 PM »
Regarding this being a signal grace from St. Joseph, St. Teresa of Avila (reformer of the Carmelites) had great devotion to him and told her Sisters to always go to him with their needs.  And I also have no doubt that St. Teresa herself is still watching over her Order (the Carmelites) from Heaven.  She cared greatly about the loss of souls and glory denied God by such loss and I dare say I don't think even death would stop her as long as God is being offended and souls lost.  In her writings she tells her nuns to pray and do penance for priests and theologians that they may not be deceived and remain holy and true to the Church.  (At that time Luther was coming on the scene.)  

I think this decision by these Carmelites carries more weight than is readily apparent, especially to those not familiar with the Order.  

Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2013, 03:32:07 PM »
Quote from: John Grace
A Google translation from the German

http://mitderimmaculata.blogspot.ie/
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Even with a very humble beginning in a small building  we are at least 700,000, - EUR be necessary.
We strongly urge you and your donations help to ensure the continued existence of our monastery in Bavaria  or environment can be possible.
For the faith we have thrown into the arms of Divine Providence: "In te, Domine, speravi,  non confundar in aeternum. - In you, O Lord, I hope, I will not be ashamed forever. "

Our Lady of Mount Carmel, the guardian of the faith, pray for us!

Her sisters of Carmel of St. Joseph

Contact: Carmel of St. Joseph, Korbacher Str 89, 59929 Brilon Forest, Tel 02961/6445
Donations: Sparkasse HSL Brilon, BLZ 416 517 70, Account No. 56 267
IBAN: DE58 4165 1770 0000 0562 67, BIC: WELADED1HS


Is anybody in a position to set up PayPal for the Carmel?



There is a properly done translation now available on our website here: http://www.therecusant.com/brilonwaldcarmel underneath the text of Fr. Schmidberger's disgraceful editorial.

Please read the full reply.

And please everyone, don't forget the Sisters. It was big news last month: human nature tends to forget important things very quickly, especially in this modern era. The brave sisters are in urgent need of financial support. There surely must be someone in the US who is able to help them out in some way, or who knows someone who can? And even if some of the members here are not extremely wealthy, a small donation would go some way to helping them, if several people were to take that step.

Let's not forget that a Carmel is an atomic bomb in the spiritual armament. One of the first thigns Archbishop Lefebvre did when he was appointed Bishop of Dakar was to instal a Carmel in his diocese to pray for the missions and for the diocese. And he attributed all the conversions, all the growth and success stories in his diocese to the prayers of that one small Carmel.

Almighty God has given a very valauble gift to the Resistance. Let us prove ourselves worthy of it, lest it be taken away from us again.