Author Topic: Neo-SSPX about to lose its German Carmel (Read 25529 times)

TheRecusant · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2013, 01:51:12 PM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Does this mean that this Carmel has lost financial assistance from the SSPX and will suffer? If so, then in my opinion the Resistance needs to provide more than prayers for these faithful contemplatives.

An afterthought:Is this the sister-order to the one started by ABL's bio sister? Who owns their convent? If it is +Fellay & co, they may have to pack up.

The actual Carmel property belongs to the sisters. But the chaplain's residence belongs to the district. Hence the booting out of the priest who is the chaplain for continuing to look after the sisters is a move designed to leave the sisters with no chaplain, because if he's kicked out of the SSPX then presumably they'll insist that he vacate the premises, even though the purpose of those premises was to support the Carmel...

Not good.

Raphaela · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2013, 03:43:40 PM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

An afterthought:Is this the sister-order to the one started by ABL's bio sister?

Yes, it's one of the six Carmels Mother Christiane founded, in 1984.

Ethelred · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:15:31 PM »

Quote from: TheRecusant

Not good.

Of course. The devil and his human helpers will do anything to stop or hinder these Carmelites.

According to my imperfect information the important aspect now is to help with our prayers these six Carmelites to hold the fort (i.e. their course) until Easter, when they will deliver their final decision to the Neo-SSPX.
And then after Easter, we'll see about the "rest", like the material things.

The robust Bavarian Fr. Zaby is no priest you mess with. And he sees very clearly. Bishop Williamson appreciates him. I'm sure a solution will be found for the chaplain, once the fort (Carmelites) is secured.

The ex-rocker Fr. Zaby and his robust Bavarian friend Fr. Weinzierl are the types of priests you find at the rear of the sinking Titanic: preaching the Gospel and helping the doomed people to find a good death -- to the last breath. (Actually the two fathers back then on the Titanic were Bavarian monks, too).

Those who stay faithful to Our Lord and do His will, always obtain help in miraculous ways. Let's pray for the faithful clerics.

Ethelred · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2013, 06:49:53 AM »

Quote from: TheRecusant

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Carmelite Nuns oppose Menzingen - Even more evidence of "Profound Unity"...!

Posted by The Editor on March 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

The traditional Carmel of St. Joseph, in Brilon Wald, Germany was founded some 30 years ago as a daughter house of the Carmel of the Sacred Heart in Quiévrain, Belgium. Some time ago this German Carmel made clear to Fr. Schmidberger their complete opposition to any agreement with an unconverted modernist Rome. The Carmel has now officially disassociated from the German District of the SSPX.

I would like to confirm this good information now.

The Carmelites preponed their final decision to the Neo-SSPX, by sending a letter to Bp. Galaretta on the weekend which reached the German SSPX district on Sunday, 10 March 2013. As The-Recusant already posted, in their letter the five Carmelites declare their Carmel's official disassociation from the SSPX now.

So this means: The Neo-SSPX has now officially lost its German Carmel. The Carmelites stay faithful to the traditional Catholic Faith. And the Resistance just got a dedicated Carmel. Te Deum!

(Your (TheRecusant) mentioned measures from Fr. Schmidberger and other SSPX prelates fastened the Carmelites' decision and showed them what to do.)

However, I've to correct my number: The Carmel consisted not of seven but of six Carmelites, and number six was the external Carmelite who left the Carmel and joined Fr. Schmidberger's camp. So there's now five internal Carmelites who hold the fort.
(Always thankful for corrections and additions coming from you fellow Catholics here.)

And last but not least:

Quote from: TheRecusant

The actual Carmel property belongs to the sisters. But the chaplain's residence belongs to the district.

Could you please check with your sources if the chaplain's residence really belongs to the SSPX district? Because I heard that the residence belongs to the Carmel, too. I also heard that the chaplain Fr. Zaby will stay with the Carmel, and that, even if his residence belonged to the SSPX district, he could move anytime into the external sister's residence directly next to the Carmel, which is now available.

So it looks like everything flourishes concerning this Carmel and their chaplain?
Deo gratias, and thanks to all persons praying and helping.

chrstnoel1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2013, 07:07:12 AM »

Thank you once again for this wonderful information, Ethelred. Rest assured that our daily rosary and prayers are for Fr. Zaby and the five internal Carmelites.

God is forever in control. GOD alone.