Author Topic: More on Voris (Read 4866 times)

KevinBrumley · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2020, 07:22:53 PM »

"Church Militant will definitely not be sued by SSPX"

I wouldn't be so sure about that friend.

StLouisIX · « **Reply #31 on:** May 21, 2020, 08:13:51 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous on May 20, 2020, 10:09:06 PM

The gaping hole in E. Michael Jone’s intellect is his indifference to Catholic tradition and the True Mass.

Absolutely. I remember him stating that it didn't matter if the Mass was said in Latin or not during one of his interviews with Owen Benjamin. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4cxjuNaBVw&t=37s

(Question about Old Mass vs New Mass is asked at 1:20; Jones responds at 1:47)

Jones' answer: "I think that one of the most destructive things you can get into, is making invidious comparisons between two kinds of Mass. I've avoided this for 40 years now, there's always people who are trying to drag me into sometime of statement, if only the Mass were still in Latin we wouldn't have any of the problems we have now. That's just fantasy, just fantasy."

As can be seen from this statement, he seems to have constructed a strawman that Traditionalists think that the Latin Mass, by its very nature, will mystically solve the Crisis in the Church and in the World. Perhaps that attitude may be found in the Indult, since compromising with Rome leaves them no room to criticize the tenets of the New Religion along with the New Mass, so the only thing they can truly cling on to is the Mass itself. This misses the point that this traditional liturgy should be accompanied by traditional teaching. However, this statement by Jones completely ignores the arguments made in favor of the Latin Mass that are based upon proving that it is the ONLY Mass of the Roman Rite, using the solid foundation of previous Papal teaching, Church tradition, and canon law.

Compare such Jones’ statement with paragraph 66 of Auctorem Fidei:

"66. The proposition asserting that 'it would be against apostolic practice and the plans of God, unless easier ways were prepared for the people to unite their voice with that of the whole Church'; if understood to signify introducing of the use of popular language into the liturgical prayers,—false, rash, disturbing to the order prescribed for the celebration of the mysteries, easily productive of many evils."

https://hymnsandchants.com/Texts/Church/Papal/Constitutions/AuctoremFideiEnglish.pdf

It seems to be almost incomprehensible that he can see through the social engineering of the 60s to the present, but yet can't somehow see through the Novus Ordo Church.

fatimarevelation23 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 21, 2020, 08:25:06 PM »

Quote from: StLouisIX on May 21, 2020, 08:13:51 PM

It seems to be almost incomprehensible that he can see through the social engineering of the 60s to the present, but yet can't somehow see through the Novus Ordo Church.

This is because E. Michael Jones has an interesting past. he is a former hippie. He never made it to woodstock on his honeymoon in 1969 due to heavy traffic. But, he was still on his way to Woodstock. He wasn't a traditionalist until 1981. So, he must've loved Novus Ordo much more than the Latin Mass before that and he obviously still does today, that is why he can't spot any differences. This man has been fighting with traditionalists for years and he is an anti-semitic con man and I think it's funny that Father Nicholas Gruner thought that E. Michael Jones was secretly a Jew and that may actually be true.

Sam Smith · « **Reply #33 on:** May 21, 2020, 09:42:22 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on May 21, 2020, 06:11:11 AM

CM’s hit pieces are total garbage. CM is also, rather hypocritically, sympathetic to perverts, since their leader is a pervert and he protects other perverts working for the operation (Simon Rafe).

Voris and Niles will get what’s coming to them from God.

Are you ever going to come clean about your ties to CM?

Sure, just keep accusing those of us who want Wegner and the rest of those responsible for the keeping pervs in the SSPX around of working for Voris. You're not terribly capable of critical thinking.

On the contrary, Voris and Niles will probably be rewarded for their perseverance on the face of the dummies that can't stand the SSPX corruption being exposed. Why does it bother you so much, Lad? You have a favorite over there you don't want to see bite the dust?

Sam Smith · « **Reply #34 on:** May 21, 2020, 09:44:23 PM »

Quote from: Struthio on May 20, 2020, 10:52:39 PM

Did he explicitly say so? And if he did, do we have any reason to believe him, after all?

Yes, he does. And he is annoyed that Engel lumped him in with Brammer. Jones says he is too anti-semitic for Opus Dei, they won't touch him. They just want the money-bags.

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