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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2020, 07:28:33 AM »
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  • There is no criticism of the SSPX's handling of the abuse and coverup happening here so far, only criticism of Voris himself for bringing the story into the public realm.

    You've just discredited yourself, as this is a blatant lie.

    Come clean.  What is your relationship with Voris and CM?

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #31 on: April 27, 2020, 09:30:05 AM »
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  • And this marks the end of my "giving Sam the benefit of the doubt" phase.
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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #32 on: April 27, 2020, 10:04:12 AM »
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  • You've just discredited yourself, as this is a blatant lie.

    Come clean.  What is your relationship with Voris and CM?
    YOU have not criticized the SSPX's abuse coverup. In fact, you cast doubt on the first female victim who came forward to tell CM of the cesspool that is St. Mary's and the SSPX's leadership. Incredulous even mocked her for being a "fat Fillipino." How Catholic of him. God bless that young lady for having the courage not to be cowed by Fr. Wegner and the rest.

    You readily acknowledge the corrupt leadership of the SSPX which is at fault for the ralliement with Rome and changing the direction of the SSPX for the worse, yet you get squeamish when Voris shows the Emperor really has no clothes? Why is that? Don't you want to save the SSPX?
    Or, do you want it to keep going on its merry way at high speed into the Novus Ordo? This corruption has to be removed in order to save the SSPX. Yet, it seems this has not even occurred to you.

    As Voris said in his latest Vortex, which I should probably put into another thread, you and the people in the pews "care more about your little Society than the VICTIMS in your Society."

    I have no relationship with Michael Voris and don't know him from Adam. Stop attacking me because you just can't wrap your head around someone supporting him outing the pedos and homos on our ranks.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #33 on: April 27, 2020, 10:43:48 AM »
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  • YOU have not criticized the SSPX's abuse coverup. In fact, you cast doubt on the first female victim who came forward to tell CM of the cesspool that is St. Mary's and the SSPX's leadership. Incredulous even mocked her for being a "fat Fillipino." How Catholic of him.
    Correction:

    You posted a CM video with your “courageous journalist” Christine Niles.

    That’s the overweight Fillipina I was referring to.  

    Working for Voris must put a lot of stress on her, causing the face-stuffing of junk food.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #34 on: April 27, 2020, 10:49:20 AM »
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  • Correction:

    You posted a CM video with your “courageous journalist” Christine Niles.

    That’s the overweight Fillipina I was referring to.  

    Working for Voris must put a lot of stress on her, causing the face-stuffing of junk food.
    I thought you were talking about the victim, sorry.
    Niles is not fat, either, though.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #35 on: April 27, 2020, 11:10:49 AM »
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  • Sam, do you think it is possible that MV's allegations are not entirely true?

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #36 on: April 27, 2020, 11:54:11 AM »
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  • Sam, do you think it is possible that MV's allegations are not entirely true?
    No.
    He invited them to sue him.
    They won't because they can't, because it's true.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #37 on: April 27, 2020, 12:23:59 PM »
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  • Correction:

    You posted a CM video with your “courageous journalist” Christine Niles.

    That’s the overweight Fillipina I was referring to.  

    Working for Voris must put a lot of stress on her, causing the face-stuffing of junk food.
    Fr. Morrison has weighed in.

    He says the vilification against the persons of Niles (and Voris)  "is completely typical of the duplicitous morality of the Neo-SSPX under Bernie Fellay, but not of the original SSPX under its late founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who was universally known for his gentlemanliness."

    Shall I call you duplicitous now? Or just Bernie?


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #38 on: April 27, 2020, 12:46:31 PM »
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  • No.
    He invited them to sue him.
    They won't because they can't, because it's true.
    You are 100% sure that it's ALL true .... because he invited them to sue him? 

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #39 on: April 27, 2020, 12:53:42 PM »
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  • You are 100% sure that it's ALL true .... because he invited them to sue him?
    He's a journalist.
    He knows what he has, and it sounds like it's a lot.
    He's not stupid, he wouldn't run it if he could be sued. I'm sure he knows the SSPX's propensity for legal defense.
    That's why he was so strong in his response. Whatever he has that is still coming must be pretty bad.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #40 on: April 27, 2020, 12:56:18 PM »
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  • He's a journalist.
    He knows what he has, and it sounds like it's a lot.
    He's not stupid, he wouldn't run it if he could be sued. I'm sure he knows the SSPX's propensity for legal defense.
    That's why he was so strong in his response. Whatever he has that is still coming must be pretty bad.
    As someone who doesn't support either MV or the SSPX, I think you are a hypocrite to expect others to give MV the benefit of the doubt, but you refuse to give any to the SSPX.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #41 on: April 27, 2020, 01:51:08 PM »
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  • Fr. Morrison has weighed in.

    He says the vilification against the persons of Niles (and Voris)  "is completely typical of the duplicitous morality of the Neo-SSPX under Bernie Fellay, but not of the original SSPX under its late founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who was universally known for his gentlemanliness."

    Shall I call you duplicitous now? Or just Bernie?
     
    Nobody care about what Morrison has to say.  He's not playing with a full deck, calls the 1962 Tridentine Mass the "half Novus Ordo mess", claiming that it's half-Novus ordo due to a couple slight changes, and regularly smears the SSPX with nonsense and stupidity.  Of course Morrison is going to jump on the bandwagon here.  He is not credible.  If Voris lacks credibility, Morrison lacks it a hundred fold.


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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #42 on: April 27, 2020, 02:13:41 PM »
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  • As someone who doesn't support either MV or the SSPX, I think you are a hypocrite to expect others to give MV the benefit of the doubt, but you refuse to give any to the SSPX.
    I support the SSPX's original mission, as does everyone of us in the Resistance. I do NOT support the current direction of the SSPX, nor their current leadership. I do NOT give them the benefit of the doubt today, because they had the chance to do the right thing THREE years ago and they did not.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #43 on: April 27, 2020, 02:16:38 PM »
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  • Nobody care about what Morrison has to say.  He's not playing with a full deck, calls the 1962 Tridentine Mass the "half Novus Ordo mess", claiming that it's half-Novus ordo due to a couple slight changes, and regularly smears the SSPX with nonsense and stupidity.  Of course Morrison is going to jump on the bandwagon here.  He is not credible.  If Voris lacks credibility, Morrison lacks it a hundred fold.
    Fr. Morrison has been calling out "homo presbyters who suborn child rape" for 20 years and now you say he has no credibility? You're crazy.

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    Re: Michael Voris dissected
    « Reply #44 on: April 27, 2020, 03:29:37 PM »
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  • Fr. Morrison has weighed in.

    He says the vilification against the persons of Niles (and Voris)  "is completely typical of the duplicitous morality of the Neo-SSPX under Bernie Fellay, but not of the original SSPX under its late founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, who was universally known for his gentlemanliness."

    Shall I call you duplicitous now? Or just Bernie?
    I maintain Christine Niles is fat... especially compared to when she first joined Voris.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi