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Offline Yeti

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Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2020, 03:35:50 PM »
So, you're saying you object to the Epistles written by St. Paul and believe he has no business teaching morality since in his past life he was a great sinner and persecutor of Christians who participated in the killing of St. Stephen?
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This was written in response to my post in which I said:
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The Catholic thing to do for someone who has led a life of gross immorality and then repented is not to set himself up as an religious authority or some sort of public teacher of faith and morals. The true humility that goes along with repentance precludes such a thing, and if he were really repentance, he would accept the fact that he is not in a position to run a YouTube channel about theology or religious subjects, and never will be again.
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Yes, I understand that St. Augustine does not follow this general rule. An exception does not remove the rule. Michael Voris is not another St. Augustine.

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If you can't even read the whole post of just a couple of sentences, why are you writing on this website? I just answered your objection in advance before you even wrote it, by mentioning St. Augustine.
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Just to repeat, someone who leads a life of public, gross immorality should not make himself a public teacher of religion as Michael Voris is doing. Not even after some period of penance. Not for the rest of his life. Even if Michael Voris had done public penance, and I'm not aware that he did. This general rule obviously does not include St. Paul, St. Augustine, or other exceptional cases. Those are exceptional cases. Michael Voris is not an exceptional case. Is all of this a little clearer now?
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I'm getting a little curious what your angle is in this. Your account is new, and it appears you only created this account in order to spread this story on the SSPX. Why? Do you have an ax to grind with them? Did you have some bad experience with the SSPX, and this is your way of getting revenge?

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2020, 05:20:23 PM »

Just to repeat, someone who leads a life of public, gross immorality should not make himself a public teacher of religion as Michael Voris is doing. Not even after some period of penance. Not for the rest of his life. Even if Michael Voris had done public penance, and I'm not aware that he did. This general rule obviously does not include St. Paul, St. Augustine, or other exceptional cases. Those are exceptional cases. Michael Voris is not an exceptional case. Is all of this a little clearer now?
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I'm getting a little curious what your angle is in this. Your account is new, and it appears you only created this account in order to spread this story on the SSPX. Why? Do you have an ax to grind with them? Did you have some bad experience with the SSPX, and this is your way of getting revenge?
Fact: God uses great sinners to raise them up to become great saints. It's not unusual. There are a great many examples of this in the Faith: St. Dismas, St. Paul, St. Augustine, and others.

Why exclude Michael Voris? Is he not capable of being used by God? He seems tough from what I saw in the latest video, and he's not backing down from this fight while a ton of people are calling him "fruit loop" or whatever.

Don't make it personal about me. You are happy to talk about the SSPX's desire to return to the arms of the Novus Ordo, but not its coverup of predators. Does that mean you have a special affection for pedos and homos? Probably not. So, it's not about an ax to grind, it's about the truth and ending the lies.
 Fr. Wegner should be sent packing immediately. His personal failures are EPIC.


Offline Meg

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2020, 08:55:32 AM »
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This was written in response to my post in which I said:
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If you can't even read the whole post of just a couple of sentences, why are you writing on this website? I just answered your objection in advance before you even wrote it, by mentioning St. Augustine.
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Just to repeat, someone who leads a life of public, gross immorality should not make himself a public teacher of religion as Michael Voris is doing. Not even after some period of penance. Not for the rest of his life. Even if Michael Voris had done public penance, and I'm not aware that he did. This general rule obviously does not include St. Paul, St. Augustine, or other exceptional cases. Those are exceptional cases. Michael Voris is not an exceptional case. Is all of this a little clearer now?
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I'm getting a little curious what your angle is in this. Your account is new, and it appears you only created this account in order to spread this story on the SSPX. Why? Do you have an ax to grind with them? Did you have some bad experience with the SSPX, and this is your way of getting revenge?

You've provided a good explanation of the situation with Voris, but the new forum member, who is an advocate for Voris, has not paid any attention to it. And he didn't answer your questions.

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2020, 04:51:10 PM »
I'm still wondering whether "the new forum member" is new .... or an old forum member under a new name.  Because I would think he/she would have been just as upset and involved in the old threads here a few years back.

Re: Michael Voris dissected
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2020, 07:39:21 PM »
I don't like Christine Niles  but  she is Vietnamese  and not fat.