CentroAmerica, the heterodox things the Romans are doing does not give us the right to do something that traditional teaching clearly shows is not in our power to do.

If we really wish to rebuild Christendom and the Church, our actions must be informed by Catholic principles.

Perhaps it is time for us to call some sort of council of our own including the SSPX CMRI SSPV and other trad groups, with the intention of resolving once and for all, whether or not we must sever ties with the vatican, and perhaps even elect a true pope.

We need a Catholic version of martin luther.

MariaCatherine is right, a conclavist election carried out by laymen will be illegal, invalid and schismatic. St. Robert and other Doctors teach that the power and right to elect a Pope, after the Cardinals, belongs to the Roman clergy alone. They may choose to depend in doing this on a general Council of the world's Ordinaries.

It is de fide that there will always be Ordinaries (bishops appointed to a see by the Pope) and Roman clergy (clerics incardinated into the diocese of Rome by a Pope) in the Church, and they alone together have the power and right to proceed to doing such things as electing a Pope. If you believe otherwise, the Faith itself should remind you that you are mistaken.

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It's not our job to fix the Church.  That belongs to God.  We have neither the authority nor competence.

So then let's all do nothing and let God fix it.

I don't share that view. As a Catholic, I believe that faith without works is useless. We need action of course.

Who can deny that there are impostors in the clergy? Do nothing my friends, let the impostors ravage the Church.  I think not.

Would you mind showing me where I said anything akin to "let's do nothing and let God fix it?"

We are laymen, with absolutely no authority or commission from Christ to decide these matters, let alone elect a new pope.  There are plenty of things to be done within the scope of our position in the Church, but electing popes and resolving the crisis in the Church by committee are not within our competence.  

You want action?  Why not follow the instructions of Our Lady at Fatima and be content to have her as our general in this war?  Why do we need to muscle in and try to assert ourselves when she has assured us that it is she who will resolve the crisis?  She told us exactly what we must do.  I doubt there are many on this board who could list those things without consulting the internet, and even fewer who have taken them to heart and fulfilled her requests.  I suggest you read the messages of Our Lady of Good Success, where she outlined exactly what is to happen, and how she "in a marvelous way, will dethrone the proud and accursed Satan, trampling him under my feet and fetter[ing] him in the infernal abyss."

I am not advocating "Quietism".  I am pointing out that it is just as wrong for us to arrogate authority we do not possess as it is for the impostors.