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Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?  (Read 440733 times)

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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #825 on: April 27, 2018, 11:24:41 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 27, 2018, 11:19:27 AM

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The best part of Stubborn's post was when he said I claim that the Novus Ordo is Catholic.  I know he isn't that stupid.  
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #826 on: April 27, 2018, 11:26:46 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 27, 2018, 11:12:08 AM
Except that evil cannot come from the Magisterium and Universal Discipline of the Church.  Period.

Could the Pope stand up there and solemnly promulgated a bad/evil dogma?  That's why your statement above is entirely moot from a logical standpoint.

Lots of "Catholics" believed that the definition of infallibility was evil, and they condemned it.  Why were they wrong to do so?
This is clear.  That's why I believe that a large percentage of dogmatic sedeplenists/anti-sedevacantists are of bad will.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #827 on: April 27, 2018, 11:39:20 AM »
Quote from: Stubborn on April 27, 2018, 11:10:08 AM
You are still confused 2V. Trent's teaching is certainly true, so why do you believe that the conciliar church's liturgy is the Catholic Church's liturgy? Trent is most assuredly not referring to the conciliar liturgy, a liturgy it surely would have condemned. Not sure how that is not obvious to you.

Because the pope promulgated the conciliar church's liturgy, you wrongfully declare that liturgy to be Catholic - but you making that claim, thankfully does not make it so. Seems like the fact that the pope promulgated a liturgy for the conciliar church should be obvious by now, I mean, you left the NO what, 8 or 10 years ago now?
Liturgy promulgated by the leader of the Catholic Church = the Catholic Church's liturgy. 
If Pope Paul VI was a valid Pope, then Novus Ordo is valid. 
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #829 on: April 27, 2018, 11:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 27, 2018, 11:12:08 AM
Except that evil cannot come from the Magisterium and Universal Discipline of the Church.  Period.

Could the Pope stand up there and solemnly promulgated a bad/evil dogma?  That's why your statement above is entirely moot from a logical standpoint.

Lots of "Catholics" believed that the definition of infallibility was evil, and they condemned it.  Why were they wrong to do so?
Come back when you figure out what the magisterium is and explain what the ladism idea of Universal Discipline even is - you know, that's discipline that all theologians agreed is a part of the Church's infallibility. Should be easy for you to explain by quoting a dozen or so pre-V1 theologians. 
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