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Offline guitarplucker

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Ignis Ardens Will be Closed Permanently
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2012, 09:10:47 AM »
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  • I haven't spent much time on "Judaica Ardens," but based on what I've seen of "Queen of Straw" Clare here I'm not surprised in the least that modernists and other riff-raff are given free rein over there.

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    « Reply #31 on: October 21, 2012, 09:57:26 AM »
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  • the situation in ireland is Special......


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    « Reply #32 on: October 21, 2012, 12:00:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    Why aren't you afraid of threats from the SSPX? Why are other people afraid?


    A few weeks ago in Ireland, a Society priest, an alter Christus  told blatant lies from the pulpit so why on earth should anybody be "afraid" of these clerics? It is Menzingen, who are afraid. The Society seem to be getting desperate when their priests are now telling lies from the pulpit.

    They will only muzzle you, if you allow them to do so. Same for this deny of sacraments, the Novus Ordo clergy don't even do that yet you have SSPX priests telling lies from the pulpits, the laity funded.

    Why should Mathew be afraid?


    I don't think he should be.  I don't think anyone should be, except perhaps for SSPX priests with integrity who might have some understandable anxiety about their livelihood.  If you are a layperson, what can they do to you if you rail against them or even simply ignore them?  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #33 on: October 21, 2012, 12:03:19 PM »
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  • So Clare is some sort of crypto-Jew?  I feel like I am in pretty good company then, since many here believe the same of me.  It seems that all one has to do to be a member of this elite club is to fail to see the world and the Church exactly as you do.

    Have you ever met an actual Jew?  Have you ever read something about actual Judaism that was not written by some right wing nut job?  If you think what one finds at IA is Jєωιѕн, you couldn't pick Judaism out of a line up.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #34 on: October 21, 2012, 12:05:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    If you think what one finds at IA is Jєωιѕн, you couldn't pick Judaism out of a line up.  


    Not Jєωιѕн, pro-Jєωιѕн.  Like Ashmolean.


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    « Reply #35 on: October 21, 2012, 02:15:23 PM »
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    Have you ever read something about actual Judaism that was not written by some right wing nut job?


    Yeah, "ѕуηαgσgυє Rising" by Hugh Akins.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #36 on: October 21, 2012, 02:17:15 PM »
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    Catholic Truth Scotland's campaign against GS concerning the Letter sent earlier to Menzigen


    Whilst Sarto was dismissive of many things until recent times, the letter is excellent. Three Bishops sent Menzingen a letter also. We saw in recent times of well intentioned folk in Scotland are willing to offer their spare room in their council flat in Glasgow to Bishop Williamson.

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    « Reply #37 on: October 21, 2012, 02:22:53 PM »
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  • Relevant to the piece is this. What is Bishop Fellay so afraid of that he has to resort to such bullying and intimidation?

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    Dear Patricius,

    Bishop Fellay, as with the other SSPX bishops, does not have authority or power to validly excommunicate anyone from the Church. Whatever episcopal function that Bishop Fellay possesses only comes to him through the necessity of the faithful requesting that he supplies it to them. His episcopal function relies solely upon a jurisdiction supplied by the Church because of a grave necessity of the faithful to receive true sacraments and sound doctrine.

    I assume that Gregorio Sarto is using the word ‘excommunication’ not in the theological sense of being excommunicated from the Church but in a lesser sense of being forced to be separated from sacraments supplied by SSPX.

    There are several people who Fr. Morgan has kindly informed of Bishop Fellay’s intention.

    His intention is to attempt to force SSPX priests to deny sacraments to anyone who is proven to be involved in criticism of Bishop Fellay and Menzingen on blogs and forums. Ignis Ardens was specifically mentioned by Bishop Fellay to Fr. Morgan. It was further related by Bishop Fellay to Fr. Morgan that anyone involved in such criticism who works for SSPX must be sacked from their employment.

    There are several people who were informed of Bishop Fellay’s stated intention by Fr. Morgan. I am told that Clare was one of them. Try Pilgrimage of Grace as well. It is just a matter of phoning or emailing them to ask for confirmation or denial.

    If you require an authoritative source then simply pick up the telephone and ask Fr. Morgan. I am informed by a friend of Fr. Morgan that something about this matter is likely to appear in the next SSPX District newsletter.


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    « Reply #38 on: October 21, 2012, 02:26:06 PM »
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    Why aren't you afraid of threats from the SSPX? Why are other people afraid?


    A few weeks ago in Ireland, a Society priest, an alter Christus  told blatant lies from the pulpit so why on earth should anybody be "afraid" of these clerics? It is Menzingen, who are afraid. The Society seem to be getting desperate when their priests are now telling lies from the pulpit.

    They will only muzzle you, if you allow them to do so. Same for this deny of sacraments, the Novus Ordo clergy don't even do that yet you have SSPX priests telling lies from the pulpits, the laity funded.

    Why should Mathew be afraid?


    Oftentimes when I read your posts, John, I wonder if we live in the same country but in different dimensions. Do you really live in Ireland or you just repeat what some folks in Ireland tell you?

    I understand that you do not want to give names for fear of Menzingen legal and sacramental retaliation, but at least you could say what was said that is a blatant lie (s).


     :roll-laugh1: I enjoyed reading this. It's nice to get a chuckle.

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    « Reply #39 on: October 21, 2012, 02:31:57 PM »
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    Have you ever met an actual Jew?  Have you ever read something about actual Judaism that was not written by some right wing nut job?  If you think what one finds at IA is Jєωιѕн, you couldn't pick Judaism out of a line up.  


    Met them, spoken with them, worked with and for them.  And I can tell you a truth that applies to Jews, and to all people whose religious and/or cultural identity is tied integrally to his race: you don't understand a Jew by what he says to you, but by what he says to another Jew.  A Jew won't profane the Most Holy Trinity, the incarnation and virgin birth of Jesus Christ, or the Holy Catholic Church in mixed company.  Nor with they generally speak poorly of the goyim that they, as тαℓмυdists, view as little more than talking animals made from filth.  But get a few of them together and it's a whole 'nother story.

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    « Reply #40 on: October 21, 2012, 09:34:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
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    Have you ever read something about actual Judaism that was not written by some right wing nut job?


    Yeah, "ѕуηαgσgυє Rising" by Hugh Akins.


    I will look it up.  Thanks.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #41 on: October 21, 2012, 09:37:13 PM »
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    Have you ever met an actual Jew?  Have you ever read something about actual Judaism that was not written by some right wing nut job?  If you think what one finds at IA is Jєωιѕн, you couldn't pick Judaism out of a line up.  


    Met them, spoken with them, worked with and for them.  And I can tell you a truth that applies to Jews, and to all people whose religious and/or cultural identity is tied integrally to his race: you don't understand a Jew by what he says to you, but by what he says to another Jew.  A Jew won't profane the Most Holy Trinity, the incarnation and virgin birth of Jesus Christ, or the Holy Catholic Church in mixed company.  Nor with they generally speak poorly of the goyim that they, as тαℓмυdists, view as little more than talking animals made from filth.  But get a few of them together and it's a whole 'nother story.


    Well, this is apparently also true of Catholics when you get them together, at least on some Internet forums.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #42 on: October 21, 2012, 11:31:44 PM »
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    Catholic Truth Scotland's campaign against GS concerning the Letter sent earlier to Menzigen


    Whilst Sarto was dismissive of many things until recent times, the letter is excellent. Three Bishops sent Menzingen a letter also. We saw in recent times of well intentioned folk in Scotland are willing to offer their spare room in their council flat in Glasgow to Bishop Williamson.


    Well, I believe we do that at some point of time: trying to believe the good intentions of someone and dismissing the possibility the he is wrong. GS just saw the light in 2011, it looks like.
    "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the evil-disposed is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigour of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics." -St. Pius X

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    « Reply #43 on: October 22, 2012, 12:03:35 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund

    Well, this is apparently also true of Catholics when you get them together, at least on some Internet forums.  


    But Catholics, at least in theory, follow the teachings and example of Our Lord Jesus Christ, even if poorly. While the "elder brothers" despise His teachings, His example and His Person, at least in practice.

    If that's right wing, then so am I.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    « Reply #44 on: October 22, 2012, 12:05:41 AM »
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  • Liberal Catholics are always close and eager to please the enemies of the Church, and always contemptuous of believers.  

    This is what is going on in the leadership of the SSPX at the moment.