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Re: Huonder Video: Part II
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2023, 09:15:18 PM »
Everything Huonder says and does to further this dilution and reintegration is pre approved in Rome.

After TC was issued, the usual trad-adjacent pundits were convinced that the endgame was to corral the pesky diocesan smells-and-bells people out into the SSPX and then excommunicate the whole lot. Paranoid shrieking, or is such a reversal still possible with this Rome of surprises? 

The latest wrinkle: the Swiss bishops are calling for an apostolic investigation into Huonder's labeling of a "pontificate of rupture" (thread here, article in German here). He's retired, what are they going to do. Unless this is part of the scripted lead-up into something else.

Re: Huonder Video: Part II
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2023, 12:30:57 AM »
After TC was issued, the usual trad-adjacent pundits were convinced that the endgame was to corral the pesky diocesan smells-and-bells people out into the SSPX and then excommunicate the whole lot. Paranoid shrieking, or is such a reversal still possible with this Rome of surprises?

The latest wrinkle: the Swiss bishops are calling for an apostolic investigation into Huonder's labeling of a "pontificate of rupture" (thread here, article in German here). He's retired, what are they going to do. Unless this is part of the scripted lead-up into something else.

True, there's nothing much they can do. Retired Bishop Rene Gracida and Archbishop Jan Pawel Lenga don't even recognize Francis as Pope, and nothing happened to them.


Re: Huonder Video: Part II
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2023, 07:50:55 AM »
The latest wrinkle: the Swiss bishops are calling for an apostolic investigation into Huonder's labeling of a "pontificate of rupture" (thread here, article in German here). He's retired, what are they going to do. Unless this is part of the scripted lead-up into something else.
Undoubtedly! His former friends in the New Church are playing the game, trying to give him a reputation as a traditionalist so that he may more readily deceive. I'm not meaning to judge his heart, but that is the appearance, and deception is certainly the result for the neoSSPXers.

Re: Huonder Video: Part II
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2023, 08:04:04 AM »
Undoubtedly! His former friends in the New Church are playing the game, trying to give him a reputation as a traditionalist so that he may more readily deceive. I'm not meaning to judge his heart, but that is the appearance, and deception is certainly the result for the neoSSPXers.

Yup.

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

This subterfuge allows the SSPX to point to Huonder and cry, “Look how much the modernists hate him for his traditionalism!”

Ten years earlier, the same tactic was used with regard to BXVI and his offer to regularize the Society:

“All the modernists are up in arms and against the pope over the prospects of our regularization.”

But for those who refused to see the game being played, +Ganswein’s inconvenient revelation that BXVI always and only wanted to snatch followers away from Lefebvre is cold water.

When the SSPX starts publishing +Vigano videos trashing the council itself, I might start to pay attention, but that won’t happen.

Huonder is no Vigano, and observing the SSPX’s varied response toward each is another means of revealing the game being played.

Re: Huonder Video: Part II
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 12:25:19 PM »
Your Excellencies/Rev. Fathers-

No doubt, you are all aware of the +Huonder video series released by the SSPX, designed to anesthetize the clergy and faithful into accepting the “traditionalism” of +Huonder (an infiltrator on an admitted mission directly from Francis to reintegrate/dissolve the SSPX into the conciliar church).

I will not bore you with an analysis of his comments (except to note that, like +Schneider, they all tend to excuse the council itself, restrict the battle for the faith to the sole issue of the Mass, and lay the groundwork for a hybrid rite by arguing -however truly- that the Novus Ordo was not a rite faithful to Sacrosanctum Concilium), but rather, I wish to direct your attention to an old tactic being used to make the anesthesia easier for the faithful to consume, because “those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

All will recall in 2012 that one of Menzingen’s responses to Resistance warnings that +Fellay was entering a trap, was to claim that all the conciliar modernists opposed BXVI’s intention to reconcile the Society.  “It proves Benedict is traditional, therefore there is no trap, and the modernists are terrified that the pope will bring us back into the ‘official’ Church.”  Then followed all the premeditated “proofs” of Benedict’s traditionalism (the motu proprio, etc).

Fortunately, +Ganswein’s inconvenient biography of BXVI revealed that the late pope’s intentions were always and only to draw as many followers away from Lefebvre as possible.

Today, the same lie is proffered on behalf of +Huonder: A video series made to promote his alleged traditionalism, to reassure the faithful (and clergy) that it is right and safe to welcome this man into tradition (and by implication, that it is safe and acceptable to collaborate with conciliar clergy: a Roman prerequisite for any practical accord!).

To enhance the illusion, a disingenuous “uproar” is manufactured among the Swiss bishops in opposition to Huonder and his recent (pre-approved) comments against Traditionis Custodes.

This subterfuge allows the SSPX to point to Huonder and cry, “Look how much the modernists hate him for his traditionalism!” (Just as ten years earlier, the same tactic was used with regard to BXVI and his offer to regularize the Society: “All the modernists are up in arms and against the pope over the prospects of our regularization.  This proves he is traditional!”).


But the astute observer will note a very different response, from both Rome and Menzingen, with regard to +Vigano, about who’s traditionalism there is no doubt!  Why no videos promoting +Vigano?  Why the long, conspicuous silence from the Society on him? 

To ask such questions is to answer them.

But the devil always shows his cloven hoof, and in the case of +Huonder, it is revealed by his desire to avoid blaming the council.  All the promotion and newly manufactured controversy surrounding him in Switzerland is designed to conceal that cloven hoof, and it is the same old Roman-SSPX artifice as in 2012. 

Given the lack of protest coming from within the Society, it is easy to predict this tactic will be much more effective this time around (the Society having long since "purified" its ranks and pews of most who would have cared).

“Because they had not the love of truth, I will send them an operation of error, that they should believe lies…”

Semper Idem,
Sean Johnson