Author Topic: Huonder Video: Part II (Read 3269 times)

SeanJohnson · « **on:** May 03, 2023, 03:13:47 PM »

There is much in this video which will gain the approval of trads, however, less conspicuous in this video is the subtle defense of the Council itself:

-The new Mass did not follow the directives of Vatican II (consequently it can be criticized).

-The hierarchy and the conciliar and post-conciliar "reforms" lack piety (but they were not heretical or even erroneous?).

-Priests wanted, for reasons of conscience, to remain faithful to the liturgy (a dramatic restriction of the scope of the Church crisis).

What do you think?

Kazimierz · « **Reply #1 on:** May 03, 2023, 06:04:43 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 03, 2023, 03:13:47 PM

There is much in this video which will gain the approval of trads, however, less conspicuous in this video is the subtle defense of the Council itself:

-The new Mass did not follow the directives of Vatican II (consequently it can be criticized).

-The hierarchy and the conciliar and post-conciliar "reforms" lack piety (but they were not heretical or even erroneous?).

-Priests wanted, for reasons of conscience, to remain faithful to the liturgy (a dramatic restriction of the scope of the Church crisis).

What do you think?

a) The new Mass is the logical and intended outgrowth of the philosophy that drove the new theology that is the conciliar church.

b) lack of piety? How about losing the Faith altogether? Rome a perdu la foi! Roma conciliarius delenda est!

c) How about priests chose false obedience to a bad authority rather than remaining true to the Faith carried by Tradition?

Those who do not see the heart and guts of the problem are not really Traditionalists, merely one of many flavours of apostasy.

"You aint Trad! You aint nothing!"

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2023, 06:53:20 AM »

Well, he's pretty much just articulating the R&R position.

If Huonder is some kind of gatekeeper, then what is he gatekeeping against? Well, it would be against the fact that the Church has been taken over by infiltrators and usurpers.

Very interesting question is why Jorge would permit him to make these statements that are absolutely contrary to his own position that was detailed in Traditionis Custodes? Does Huonder act and speak with Jorge's blessing? Why would Jorge approve of his saying such things as on this video unless there were some nefarious plot here and Huonder is merely play-acting his role?

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04, 2023, 07:05:23 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on May 04, 2023, 06:53:20 AM

Very interesting question is why Jorge would permit him to make these statements that are absolutely contrary to his own position that was detailed in Traditionis Custodes? Does Huonder act and speak with Jorge's blessing? Why would Jorge approve of his saying such things as on this video unless there were some nefarious plot here and Huonder is merely play-acting his role?

Of course.

The more the SSPX faithful and clergy buy into Huonder, the more it both evinces and promotes/advances Fr. Cottier’s blueprint (which has proceeded exactly as the modernists have contrived these last 20 years):

”Reconciliation carries within itself it’s own internal dynamism…we must be patient. What is important is that there no longer be rejection in their hearts…gradually we must expect further steps, like concelebration [or consecration of holy oils].”

Everything Huonder says and does to further this dilution and reintegration is pre approved in Rome.

Kazimierz · « **Reply #4 on:** May 04, 2023, 02:54:50 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 04, 2023, 07:05:23 AM

Of course.

The more the SSPX faithful and clergy buy into Huonder, the more it both evinces and promotes/advances Fr. Cottier’s blueprint (which has proceeded exactly as the modernists have contrived these last 20 years):

”Reconciliation carries within itself it’s own internal dynamism…we must be patient. What is important is that there no longer be rejection in their hearts…gradually we must expect further steps, like concelebration [or consecration of holy oils].”

Everything Huonder says and does to further this dilution and reintegration is pre approved in Rome.

You're doing great Huonder!

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