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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2019, 06:43:22 PM »

Avoid the entire mess.  Homeschool!
I agree as do many families at OLoS  

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 07:01:58 PM »
What's wrong with boys playing sports? 


Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2019, 08:50:10 PM »
What's wrong with boys playing sports?
Nothing!  Depending upon the sport, there’s nothing wrong with girls playing sports, either.
Here’s the problem.  Once a school joins a sports league, the players WILL be exposed directly and deliberately to co-ed teams, to single sex teams that wear immodest athletic uniforms, to parents, friends, family of other teams who may behave in an unCatholic manner.  They will have to accept and obey the coaches of the competing schools—-again, a possible problem.  When a school joins an organization, the participating students presume approval of the activities and practices.  Unless there is a sports league where the players will not be exposed to major departures from Catholic morality, the children will get the message that the school, the church, and their parents approve.  If they have found a sports league with such high standards, I’d like to know about it!  
If the parents’ motivation is for their child to go to college on a sports scholarship, for example, because the child truly has extraordinary talent, then they should enroll him in a team as a private individual in order that he alone is exposed to various unCatholic issues.  The parents can prepare, teach, and control when and with whom he competes.  As a rule, I do not think major sports is a proper vocational plan for a traditional Catholic, but there can be exceptions. If parents want the school to belong to a sports league for public prestige, shame on them.  They need not be surprised when their star athlete leaves religion upon turning 18 or moving out.
Why not organize an intramural sports program?  It needn’t be confined to one small school.  Homeschooled children from the chapel, children from the chapel-run school, even community children whose parents are willing to abide by Catholic standards can play.  No, it won’t be like playing sports for a big public high school.  It won’t lead to prestige or money, but so what?  
The purpose of sports, IMHO, should be to foster physical health, coordination, mastery of a physical skill, teamwork, camaraderie, and good sportsmanship.  NOT acceptable, co-ed teams above 3rd grade, immodest or unisex uniforms, obnoxious parental behavior like booing, fighting, cussing out the coach...sports not suited to sex, ie, girls wrestling, boys cheerleading, being overly competitive to the point where the sport usurps more important activities or monopolizes time, or a sport that involves great expense so that money is misused or children who’d like to participate cannot afford it.  
In my experience, intramural sports can be clean, healthy fun.  A sports league?  Most of the time, the wrong things are emphasized.  Did not St. Paul say that physical exercise profits little?  He did not say, “not at all,” lest someone accuse me of being a Jansenist.  He said, “a little.”  So, yes, go ahead and play a little sports, but keep it balance.  Will playing help me save my soul?  The answer can be yes if the fruit is on the good list.

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2019, 08:57:35 PM »
Most sports leagues require that children have practice and/or games on Sunday morning, which means that the child and their parents cannot attend Mass or must attend Mass wearing their sports clothes and then leave early. It is a bad example to other families, whose children may become jealous and complain, "If Paul can participate in a sports event on Sundays, then why can't I."

Even if some games/practice are only held one Sunday per month and the rest on Saturdays, it is still a slippery slope. One Sunday per month can easily morph into every Sunday.

If the league wins and goes on to a national event, then the child and parents must travel during the weekend and attend mandatory events on Sunday.

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2019, 10:15:16 PM »
Most sports leagues require that children have practice and/or games on Sunday morning, which means that the child and their parents cannot attend Mass or must attend Mass wearing their sports clothes and then leave early. It is a bad example to other families, whose children may become jealous and complain, "If Paul can participate in a sports event on Sundays, then why can't I."

Even if some games/practice are only held one Sunday per month and the rest on Saturdays, it is still a slippery slope. One Sunday per month can easily morph into every Sunday.

If the league wins and goes on to a national event, then the child and parents must travel during the weekend and attend mandatory events on Sunday.
What you say is certainly true of public school sports and of many private, secular leagues.  Joining a Christian sports league eliminates the Sunday problem, but these are mainly comprised of Protestant schools.  Often, Catholics aren’t welcome because we’re not considered Christians, especially by the type of Protestants with whom we share many moral standards!  Example, Independent Baptists, Holiness congregations, Conservative Pentecostals, and many small, traditionally black and southern state churches have standards of modesty, speech, dress, respect for authority as traditional Catholics.  The problem is that they won’t accept Catholics!  
The Protestants who will accept Catholics are liberal; they accept everyone!  One may as well play public schools and novus ordo schools.
Public school sports was not always as it is now.  When I was in grade six, I tried out for volleyball at a friend’s insistence.  I made the team and she didn’t.  I wasn’t into sports, so my parents were a bit surprised, but I played volleyball for two years and enjoyed it, both games and practices.  There were no Saturday or Sunday activities.  Games and practices were M-F in the afternoon.  We were a middle of the road team, didn’t win the championship, but didn’t lose every game, either.  I didn’t play in grade eight because I chose another extracurricular, the Outdoors Club. When my sister hit grade six, she wanted to try out for field hockey and soccer.  I was already a high school senior, not at all involved in school sports.  My sister made the soccer team and all of a sudden, there were arguments about missing Mass—-never allowed by Dad, and staying over various friends’ houses for the weekend to accommodate Saturday practices and games instead of going camping with the family.  Too often, she got her way with the resulting alienation.  She’d agree to go to Mass, either Saturday vigil or Sunday, but often that didn’t happen.  There’d be excuses, headache, upset stomach, got a flat tire on the bike and it was too late to walk...So then Dad required a Mass bulletin. Well, one needn’t actually attend Mass to get a bulletin!  She had a boyfriend who’d supply one, or she’d pick one up on the way to or from school since the church was a block away.  By grade seven, after screaming, yelling fights, a priest whom Dad consulted said she should not be made to attend church(!?!), so she pretty much left off all religion except the five classes in the evening for Confirmation. Dad and Mom insisted in the hope that it would eventually bring her back.  Sadly, I have serious doubt as to the validity at that point in time.  
Did sports cause the entire disaster?  No, of course not, but it didn’t help, and was definitely used by the devil as one more tool.