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Trad Ilk, Reject Vatican II
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 01:12:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: basilwarden on Yesterday at 11:08:16 AM
    Do you reject Vatican 2?
    I do reject Vatican too!

    Let's start a group called Trad Ilk. Well you see: there's Lefebvrists, Williamson supporters, Surge Domine +Vigano, there's Trad Inc.  , FSSP, ECCLESIA DEI, motu, ICK , Indulterers,Tradie Land, the Resistance, the Resistants, hewkonians, pheifferites, RadTrads, France Fidèle, Una cuм, non Una cuм, cuм Petro, trad Seminaries, trad forums CI,  CatholicTwumpet(■), neoSSPX, Dr. K trads(unprude), Carmelites
     hermitage, Benedictines, CMRI, Franciscan nuns, papists,  Myriad Sedes  etc.

    Fr. Hesse doubted that Vatican II was valid...it was only to be a PASTORAL Council...then look what satan hath wrought: rot.
    So anyone who rejects Vatican II and its reforms would be eligible to join. Ilk looks a lot like ill, because the loose pockets of the Resistance is really ill, so many splits, fake this or that, few masses and sacraments ( think Homealoners).
    Strickly speaking, a recent thread said that we layfolk are not " Resistance " of SSPX...only ex- Sspx members are unofficially resisting.  They don't have a leader...yet.
    Just a thought.

    ilk: meaning of that kind or sort.
    It's also an ARCHAIC term - great for us dinosaurs♡ !
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 01:35:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Twice dyed on Yesterday at 01:12:09 PM
    I do reject Vatican too!

    Let's start a group called Trad Ilk. Well you see: there's Lefebvrists, Williamson supporters

    How are you dealing with the Crisis in the Church may I ask?

    What group are you associated with? You act like you're above it all.

    It's a huge red flag when anyone starts bashing the Traditional Movement, criticizing its lack of unity for example. That is to be expected when we don't have a Pope. (And no, Tradition doesn't have "a Pope", since even sede-plenists have to disobey the recent Modernist Popes, and certainly can't claim him as any source of unity or leadership for their lifeboat/resistance Traditional Movement group)
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 01:42:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on Yesterday at 01:35:24 PM
    How are you dealing with the Crisis in the Church may I ask?

    What group are you associated with? You act like you're above it all.

    See, I couldn't even make heads or tails out of that last rant.  I was going to ask if he had forgotten to take his meds. :laugh1:

    Some of the "groups" were actually the same, with slight variations on names, others weren't really groups in the sense of taking different positions, but just different Orders, organizations, etc.  That whole thing was a mess that gave me a headache to read.  I opted to make no comment.



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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 04:08:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Everlast22 on Yesterday at 12:45:46 PM
    I'm seeing a pattern on almost all Catholic forums, Youtube comments, x spaces, etc., spamming the same bullshit

    Catholics looking into traditionalism and the objective in-your-face apostasy with careful research.

    Then,

    Every one of those spaces getting infiltrated by plants, like the usual pope-splaining suspects in Cathinfo for instance.
    Boru is the definition of a spam bot.  Never responds to arguments.  Re-posts same points.  Makes crazy claims with no proof. 
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 05:11:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on Yesterday at 01:35:24 PM
    How are you dealing with the Crisis in the Church may I ask?

    What group are you associated with? You act like you're above it all.

    It's a huge red flag when anyone starts bashing the Traditional Movement, criticizing its lack of unity for example. That is to be expected when we don't have a Pope.
    I don't mean to bash groups, I was simply showing some groups that are not happy with Modernist Rome. 
    I get ~ 5 masses / year. I don't hate the neoSspx, I just pray they return with their fighting spirit.
      But everyone should agree that these are CONFUSING times...that's my point.
    I also pray for Pope Leo XIV every day, so that he converts back to the TRUTH. 

    Satan promotes divisions, so let's work for Christ the King!
    St. Augustine pray for us +

    And CathInfo is important to get everyone on the same page. Not to argue to win arguments, but to find the TRUTH, as Fr. Hesse spoke.
    God Bless+

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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 07:47:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 12:38:42 PM
    How is it that you refuse to stop with the lies and the gaslighting?  I've said very little about sedevacantism during this time other than stating that the question of Holy Ordrers is NOT a sedevacantist issue, but also troubles many R&R.  In fact, I regularly attend the chapel of an R&R priest, an independent priest, and he holds NO Orders to be invalid.  And the other point I raised is where your principle of disciplinary infallibility is one you share with the sedevacantists (including myself).

    * Stop the equivocating. You never stop pounding us with how all the new rite sacraments are invalid, how the Pope is not the Pope, how "evil and wicked" the SSPX is. And where do you do it - here on a forum full of Resistance faithful; grooming your audience. If any one crosses you, they get a string of aggressive name-calling that makes Luther sound like a gentleman.

    If my point was to have everyone go sedevacantist, I wouldn't have even bothered, but would have just said, "See, doubtful Orders, immediately leave SSPX and go to your nearest SV chapel."  This thing was precisely in order to do a service to those who do in fact attend SSPX chapels, i.e. making it possible for them to continue going their with peace of soul ... therefore exactly the opposite of trying to get them to leave the SSPX.

    Nor have I said a word about the Resistance.

    I'm actually "persona non grata" to many SVs, since I also believe in the necessity of Baptism for salvation.

    I have NEVER adhered to any single group, and my opinions are extremely eclectic, where I agree and disagree with just about every single "group" out there on one point or another

    My "agenda" is truth, and the truth of this matter is obvious.  But your arguments are so utterly absurd, that it is clearly YOU who have the agenda.  I am quite open to persuasion that there's no positive doubt regarding NO Orders, except that nothing that even remotely resembles a convincing argument has ever been offered.

    * Your agenda Sir is ensure the truth is distorted. Any time someone makes a negative comment about the Church or the SSPX, you get in there and drive the nail home no matter how slanderous it is; you literally jump at any opportunity and put your own spin on it.
    You continue to lie and to gaslight.

    * I assure you I try never to lie. Lying is cowardly.

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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 07:57:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 12:53:52 PM
    Before posting again, Borat ... recalling that it's a lie to sin ...

    1) Are you Salza, Siscoe, or some close ally to one of these?

    2) Are you the poster formerly known by various names, such as Xavier, XavierSem, Nishant, and others ... or someone associated with him?

    3) Do you even attend SSPX chapels or are you an "Ecclesia Dei" type ... FSSP / ICK/ Motu, one of those "approved" varieties?
    Ask me again nicely without the juvenile name-calling. Let us see if you can act like a gentleman.
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 08:41:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Boru on Yesterday at 07:57:36 PM
    Ask me again nicely without the juvenile name-calling. Let us see if you can act like a gentleman.
    Dodge #1.
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 10:54:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on Yesterday at 08:41:09 PM
    Dodge #1.

    Right ... the answer to at least one and most likely 2 of the questions is a Yes.  I've been calling this Conciliar troll Borat (aka Jew Sacha Cohen) for a while, and NOW s/he uses it as an excuse not to answer a post.  I can't decide if s/he is Salza or Nishant just yet.
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    Re: Fr. Robinson: It’s All Valid, Trust Us!
    « Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 11:38:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 10:54:37 PM
    Right ... the answer to at least one and most likely 2 of the questions is a Yes.  I've been calling this Conciliar troll Borat (aka Jew Sacha Cohen) for a while, and NOW s/he uses it as an excuse not to answer a post.  I can't decide if s/he is Salza or Nishant just yet.
    Nishant's posts weren't as coherant as Borat's. 
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