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The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
« on: Yesterday at 07:57:55 AM »
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  • The title of this thread will come as no surprise to anyone on here!!

    I heard from someone in the UK about this video -- "Leaked Voicemail: +Bishop Williamson on ‘Amiable Separation’ Offer from Neo-SSPX" . I wont post the link as it is discussed below. 

    This matter has been covered so many times before and Bishop Williamson addressed it in this excellent interview with Sean Johnson-- here but begin listening at about 12:10 - 14:40): https://odysee.com/@TradicionalistaCatholicSermons:9/bishop-williamson-with-sean-johnson-3:9

    This person from the UK has posted the link three times in the comments section of this particular video for it to be removed each time. Clearly the C.T. would prefer its lies and detractions to the truth of the matter, but that is hardly surprising. It may also have been because it was mentioned that some of the hewkoite cult in the UK welcomed Fr Pfeiffer on a visit earlier this year who went to the North and South of England apparently. Their numbers are already minuscule so they cannot afford another split.





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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 11:10:37 AM »
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  • Fr. Pfeiffer/Hewko were wrong once again. This time about Bishop Williamson.

    After his ouster from the SSPX for derailing a sellout to Rome, and speaking the truth about various topics including the holo-coaster, Bp Williamson stayed faithful till the end. He ordained several bishops (as Abp. Lefebvre did) and for the same reason -- to ensure the continuation of Tradition, the fight against Modernism and the Conciliar Church. Not just for 20, 30, or 40 years (as Bp Fellay and other neo-SSPX priests were comfortable with) but FOR AS LONG AS GOD WILLS THE CRISIS TO CONTINUE.

    For the TRUE faithful, who trust in God, you ask them "How long will you fight this fight?" and they will ask you "How long will God allow the Crisis to continue?" Because the answer will be the same to both questions.

    We don't believe Tradition (the Traditional Movement) has an "expiration date". As for the danger of becoming schismatic, Old Catholic, etc. I can only say: trust in God. He will sustain us through this Crisis.

    That is true fidelity to the Archbishop's work.
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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 12:17:33 PM »
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  • Fr. Hewko's dupes need to stop drinking the kool-aid.

    You can't point to a SINGLE piece of evidence, a SINGLE thing worthy of criticism, from these priests and bishops you attack 24/7.

    Even the nonsense you re-hash from 10 years ago never held water to begin with. It's a stale joke that wasn't funny the first time, but you giggle like a 6 year old laughing at his own dumb joke, totally oblivious.

    I've seen "your best" against Bp. Zendejas for example, and it's a complete joke. You nit-picked a word or two from a written sermon from 2016, and that's what you're going off of, to the present day. On THAT shaky foundation, which was never solid to begin with, you attack the good Bishop and all the chapels and priests who work with him, to the present day!

    Or because the Bishop makes a different prudential choice (how to arrange his apostolate, how to publicize, how to deal with infiltrators, which outlets to advertise in, etc.) you consider GROUNDS FOR EXCOMMUNICATION. As in, Traditional Catholics must avoid, as a literal VITANDUS, these priests and their Masses for the anti-Catholic heretical crime of HAVING A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION with the prudential opinions/choices of Fr. Pfeiffer or Fr. Hewko.

    HUH? Seriously?

    How about Fr. Hewko preach a sermon in Spanish, and I'll pick apart HIS sermon. Deal? Because Bp. Zendejas's Blue Paper (sermon) that Fr. Pfeiffer tortured-till-it-screamed was in a SECOND LANGUAGE. Bp. Zendejas is ESL (English as Second Language). His native tongue (i.e., best language for communicating with maximum clarity) is Spanish, not English.

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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 12:23:53 PM »
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  • I must point out that "all the Hewkonians" are actually ONE MAN who keeps signing up for an account, Croix style.

    Don't believe for a minute that there are a lot of such idiots -- no, it's just 1 guy, MAYBE 2 if you're lucky. It's the same 1 or 2 guys, over and over again, with different CathInfo accounts.

    And why?

    Because CathInfo has traffic; CathInfo is relevant. CathInfo has eyeballs. CathInfo gets more traffic in an hour than all their pathetic micro-blogs, micro-fora, and unread newsletters get in a month. They're not having any fun, getting noticed, making any converts, or getting anything done in their microscopic echo chambers. So they can't resist coming back to CathInfo again and again, like a moth to a flame.
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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 12:37:38 PM »
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  • The title of this thread will come as no surprise to anyone on here!!

    I heard from someone in the UK about this video -- "Leaked Voicemail: +Bishop Williamson on ‘Amiable Separation’ Offer from Neo-SSPX" . I wont post the link as it is discussed below.

    This matter has been covered so many times before and Bishop Williamson addressed it in this excellent interview with Sean Johnson-- here but begin listening at about 12:10 - 14:40): https://odysee.com/@TradicionalistaCatholicSermons:9/bishop-williamson-with-sean-johnson-3:9

    This person from the UK has posted the link three times in the comments section of this particular video for it to be removed each time. Clearly the C.T. would prefer its lies and detractions to the truth of the matter, but that is hardly surprising. It may also have been because it was mentioned that some of the hewkoite cult in the UK welcomed Fr Pfeiffer on a visit earlier this year who went to the North and South of England apparently. Their numbers are already minuscule so they cannot afford another split.
    Unfortunately, this video you linked doesn’t help matters.



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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 02:59:48 PM »
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  • Unfortunately, this video you linked doesn’t help matters.

    Says the deceptive liar with multiple accounts.

    Apparently, the video he linked will make everything EXPLICITLY clear, and solve ALL confusion!
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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 05:33:35 PM »
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  • I must point out that "all the Hewkonians" are actually ONE MAN who keeps signing up for an account, Croix style.

    Don't believe for a minute that there are a lot of such idiots -- no, it's just 1 guy, MAYBE 2 if you're lucky. It's the same 1 or 2 guys, over and over again, with different CathInfo accounts.

    And why?

    Because CathInfo has traffic; CathInfo is relevant. CathInfo has eyeballs. CathInfo gets more traffic in an hour than all their pathetic micro-blogs, micro-fora, and unread newsletters get in a month. They're not having any fun, getting noticed, making any converts, or getting anything done in their microscopic echo chambers. So they can't resist coming back to CathInfo again and again, like a moth to a flame.
    I think it is because they have to keep justifying why they are "home-aloners", something in them tells them they are wrong, but if they can make converts, then they can feel justified in staying away from the SAJM all this time. Either that, or they just crazy nuts!

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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:13:57 PM »
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  • Here it is on YouTube.

    I wonder how they got it. Who IS Catholic Trumpet, anyway? 
    I don’t want a name, just want to know if it is Fr. Hewko’s mouthpiece or Fr.’s non-warlock version of P the M.

    https://youtu.be/VmmijiP5SJY?si=0r-DDpi3Xs5DVfXu

    I’d never heard it before. I sent CT a message objecting to its posting at all on YT since it is from a man now deceased who cannot reply, explain, or defend himself. 
    The intended recipient of the call we do not hear at all. 
    It was intended for the ears of then Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, no one else, certainly not the general public, whether it was intended to be specifically confidential or not.
    We don’t hear the Bishop’s words preceding or after what is posted, so possibly makes the listeners hear one thing when another was intended.
    Others are mentioned by name, one of whom is also deceased. Bp. Williamson did not intend his comments about them and their actions to be made public at the time of the call.
    The call was made in 2012, shortly BEFORE the SHTF in public. 
    While I am not defending the actions of one person in particular, and of the SSPX as a whole, Bp. W. had the prudence not to speculate on future actions of the SSPX in public, only to Fr. Pfeiffer, the intended recipient of the message. 
    In my mind, this is like writing someone a letter, ie. “snail mail.” Everyone knows it is illegal to open and read, much less make public a letter addressed to a specific person. Even if you are too young to have ever heard of this US law, common sense and common courtesy tell you that this is an invasion of privacy. If the recipient later says to another, or himself has permission of the sender to go public, then there’s no problem. While this may have been the case in this instance, judging by the contents, it is highly unlikely.

    To me, this begs the question, who is the one who “leaked” the letter to Catholic Trumpet? 
    Or did CT know about the prior publication and since it was already public, saw no problem in resurrecting it 13 years after the fact? If the original publication was morally wrong, then surely republication is questionable.  
    Much has changed since 2012, the context of the message, in the SSPX, with Fr. Pfeiffer, his associates, the others mentioned in the message, one of whom is said to be seriously ill and two of whom, most notably, the messenger, are deceased!  

    The response I received from CT asserted that a voice mail is not private. 
    He also stated that by the republication of this voice mail from 2012, “many souls will be saved.”
    How so? Which souls has he in mind? 
    I received no response. I may not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but that makes no sense to me. If anyone out there in CI land understands it, please explain!

    “Inquiring minds want to know!” 
    If any CI readers recall the origin of the above quotation, you’ll recall what type of publication used it for a TV advertisement! The entire CT video seems to me the tradcat version of that supermarket cashier aisle rag. 


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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 06:56:37 PM »
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  • That's not a trumpet -- it's flatulence.

    The Catholic "Trumpet" is completely dishonorable and self-serving. Indeed, the person in question (Bp. Williamson) is deceased, so he can no longer gainsay or object to anything they're alleging.

    However, it doesn't mean they can't use this opportunity to try to stir up more confusion, attack what they call the "fake resistance", and then take advantage of the chaos they caused to make more home aloners, Hewko cultists, etc.

    Completely evil and self-serving. They are total garbage.

    They USE the name of +ABL to serve themselves, they LIE about being the only faithful successors of his movement, etc.
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    Re: The "Catholic" Trumpet hates the truth
    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 08:05:25 PM »
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  • I must point out that "all the Hewkonians" are actually ONE MAN who keeps signing up for an account, Croix style.

    Don't believe for a minute that there are a lot of such idiots -- no, it's just 1 guy, MAYBE 2 if you're lucky. It's the same 1 or 2 guys, over and over again, with different CathInfo accounts.

    And why?

    Because CathInfo has traffic; CathInfo is relevant. CathInfo has eyeballs. CathInfo gets more traffic in an hour than all their pathetic micro-blogs, micro-fora, and unread newsletters get in a month. They're not having any fun, getting noticed, making any converts, or getting anything done in their microscopic echo chambers. So they can't resist coming back to CathInfo again and again, like a moth to a flame.
    Good point, Matthew.

    It is easy to recognize the guy:
    1-It is a new account with 1 or 2 posts.
    2-He re-exposes old Hewko/Pfeiffer views on Neo-SSPX, such as "Red-Lighting". 
    3-He tries to embarass those who follow +Williamson and the bishops he consecrated
    4-He never criticizes the Anti-Willaimson Cult leaders (Hewko, Pfeiffer, Ruiz...).

    You should continue to check the IP addresses linked to these new accounts. Maybe give us a list of User Names associated to the same IP address.. Maybe bar any account linked to that IP address. That way, we will not waste anymore time clicking on his posts.

     This guy is a TROLL. Not there to be useful, but just to sow confusion and frustration. That is the only pleasure this guy (or girl) has left in his/her pathetic and "loser" bubble of a life. Let him/her try to have his/her own forum, and see how it goes.