This is great news!  Well, actually it kind of stinks, but its great to know about it.

I appreciate your concerns, Machabees, and I enjoy reading your comments.

And, I have a few of my own, for anyone interested..

I just got word that Fr. Pfluger is in the U.S.A doing a “Chapel Hall” conference at Post Falls this Wednesday April 10, 2013; in which, he is giving an “Informational seminar” (whatever that means).

It seems to me that when they say "Informational seminar" they're talking about
what we would normally call an Infomercial, but they would never be
so up-front and honest as to say what they really mean, because this is
propaganda.

It certainly will be interesting to know what “new thesis” he, and Menzingen, are going to come up with about the leaked Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble of April 15, 2012 that he too was a part of.

We could turn this into a game.  Let's all propose what we expect to hear in
his speech and then when he finally delivers it we can compare what we had
expected to what actually happened.  Plus, if we can make it clear that we
already are prepared for his stupid nonsense and will recognize it as such
the moment we hear it, AND he reads our predictions here on this open public
forum, he may well have to scale back on his planned pablum, because he
will already know in advance that if he goes ahead and says it, he runs the
risk of having audience members laughing at him in the face, which would
be HIGHLY embarrassing, FOR HIM.  And, not wanting to embarrass himself,
he will be forced to pull back on the planned program.

Remember also, it was Fr. Pfluger who said in an interview a few months ago that the SSPX is in an “irregular” position and needs to make an agreement with conciliar Rome in order to “regularize” themselves to be put within the conciliar fold.

We can recommend to Fr. Pfluger if he feels irregular there are over-the-
counter medications to remedy the condition.  He doesn't need to talk about it.

So then for anyone in Post Falls, prepare yourselves.  First, please record it.  And if there is, or is not a Q&A, there are a few questions that he does need to answer:

•   Is the 2012 General Council’s 6-conditions still in effect?  They have not been retracted.

I would recommend as well a special focus on the "desirable" Condition for
the exemption of houses.  Fr. Pfluger should be bombarded with multiple
questions on this, to the point where he gets upset and scolds the crowd for
being repetitive, and they should continue asking anyway, because he is not
answering their questions.  Let him be the one to get "upset."  Let him throw
a tantrum right there in front of everyone, and then we can post that on the
Internet for all the world to see.

Does this "desireable Condition" presume that the SSPX would not be subject
to diocesan bishops?  Let him go on record for this.  So, what guarantee does
the Society have for not being subject to local bishops if the Statement drops
the issue and does not make it a SIN QUA NON requirement?  Does he not
know that apostate Rome is well-known for its penchant to go back on its
agreements and find reasons to not do what it said it would do?

•   Are the SSPX leaders still looking to make a “practical” deal with conciliar Rome?

You're not going to get a straight answer for this.  You'll have to come up with
different ways of asking it.  

"What evidence can you point to that proves there is no longer a push to make
a practical and impossible 'deal' with modernist Rome?"

Get your vocabulary straight.  This is war.  There is no reason to play Mamby-
pamby with the Menzingen-denizens!!

•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble, the SSPX now accepts that Vatican II council is now understood in the light of tradition.

This is a great observation and it is essential.  Do not overlook this FACT.

•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble, the SSPX now accepts the "legitimacy" of the New Mass and the new sacraments.

DITTO!

•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal preamble, the SSPX now accepts, without exception, the New Code of Canon Law.

DITTO!

•   And any other questions to make clear the rest of their ambiguous interviews and statements over the last year.

On a side note, I remember that when we used to receive a conference in years past in the SSPX Chapels, it was always on a “positive” type of conference in giving updates within the whole crisis of the Church… now, we only get “negative” type of conferences of lies and propaganda from the SSPX leaders with cover ups over leaked and secretive dealings with conciliar Rome to sell out Tradition…

Isn't it the same M.O. of what the Pharisees of old had done?

Very true.  Excellent point, Machabees!

I just got word that Fr. Pfluger is in the U.S.A doing a “Chapel Hall” conference at Post Falls this Wednesday April 10, 2013; in which, he is giving an “Informational seminar” (whatever that means).

It certainly will be interesting to know what “new thesis” he, and Menzingen, are going to come up with about the leaked Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble of April 15, 2012 that he too was a part of.

Remember also, it was Fr. Pfluger who said in an interview a few months ago that the SSPX is in an “irregular” position and needs to make an agreement with conciliar Rome in order to “regularize” themselves to be put within the conciliar fold.

So then for anyone in Post Falls, prepare yourselves.  First, please record it.  And if there is, or is not a Q&A, there are a few questions that he does need to answer:

•   Is the 2012 General Council’s 6-conditions still in effect?  They have not been retracted.
•   Are the SSPX leaders still looking to make a “practical” deal with conciliar Rome?
•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble, the SSPX now accepts that Vatican II council is now understood in the light of tradition.
•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal Preamble, the SSPX now accepts the "legitimacy" of the New Mass and the new sacraments.
•   In the Menzingen Doctrinal preamble, the SSPX now accepts, without exception, the New Code of Canon Law.
•   And any other questions to make clear the rest of their ambiguous interviews and statements over the last year.

On a side note, I remember that when we used to receive a conference in years past in the SSPX Chapels, it was always on a “positive” type of conference in giving updates within the whole crisis of the Church… now, we only get “negative” type of conferences of lies and propaganda from the SSPX leaders with cover ups over leaked and secretive dealings with conciliar Rome to sell out Tradition…

Isn't it the same M.O. of what the Pharisees of old had done.

Machabees- any chance that his Dysinformation Seminar will be recorded by you or anyone you  know in Post Falls?

Really- its funny- they are so intimidated, so scared, of the Resistance, they are not taking time to do what they never have- take an interest in Chapels. When, I wonder, was the last time Fr Pfluger made an effort to come out to Post Falls?

The cultish trad "settlements" are not surprisingly the most tightly under the psychological control of the liberal neotrad manipulators.

It should be interesting to see what propaganda Fr. Pfluger will come up with tomorrow.

It will be hard for him to out-do the major propaganda from Fr. Laisney last month.

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Really- its funny- they are so intimidated, so scared, of the Resistance, they are not taking time to do what they never have- take an interest in Chapels. When, I wonder, was the last time Fr Pfluger made an effort to come out to Post Falls

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Post Falls is one of their biggest chapels.  It has over 1000+  members.  What a better way to test public sentiment, before they take another 2 steps forward  in their process of uniting with Rome.

I agree. I'm sorry, I realized now how littered with grammatical error my post was. I meant to say they are doing what they normally would not. While the US district superior at Post Falls might be normal, why would Fr. Pfluger need to visit?

They are getting ready for their big shindig at the new conciliar seminary in Virginia. Hopefully,there will be enough people there to ask good questions--ones like:
If you want to join Rome why don 't you just join St Peters or Christ the King  institute? Why did you hide the involvement with GREC for the last 15 years? The SSPX has a monthly journal
In almost every country. Why couldn't  you tell the faithful that your delegates were meeting regularly with French and Italian conciliarists, with the specific objective ( of GREC ), to bring the
SSPX into Rome? Why did you allow Fellay to pursue his objective of getting rid of Bp. Willismson,
Who was trying to warn the SSPX? How many priests sre you going to force out before the SSPX comes to its senses? How can you justify accepting  a million dollars to build a conciliar seminary, money which was stolen by the Rothshilds from the Catholics of Europe, in their effort to create a one world Communidt empire? Whst promised have been made to get these funds?
Best wishes, remnant fighters!

 

I can imagine the reactions already.  I will get FLAK for each of these points.

Dude- you get FLAK because you don't know how to read.


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And then you just ramble on and on.

You are too kind, Neil Obstat!

I try and not get distracted by too much detail and apply a broad brush approach to events throughout the Society. It is easy to do this because Menzingen has all the power and will exercise this in time right down to Fr. Morgan's 'note to the milkman'.  

Post Falls will be a key moment and should indicate the leadership's future intentions. The planned visit to the UK of Bp. F will be different. He already knows the opposition here and will either prepare the way for a new district superior capable of finding a new congregation or leave things as they are, hoping they will settle down in this unimportant mission. The big question mark though is the effect on the district of any future home apostolate of Bp. W.