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Offline Cryptinox

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Fr. Patrick Crane
« on: March 20, 2024, 04:20:38 PM »
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    • Does anyone here know anything about Fr. Patrick Crane? I am considering doing a general confession with him but I don't know who ordained him. If you have any information please PM me.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 06:14:55 PM »
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    • This is from the inestimable resource, Catholic Candle.

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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 08:25:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 20, 2024, 04:20:38 PM
    Does anyone here know anything about Fr. Patrick Crane? I am considering doing a general confession with him but I don't know who ordained him. If you have any information please PM.
    Fr. Patrick Crane is my Priest (when I'm attending an SSPX Mass at least).

    He is a somewhat later vocation, ordained in 1998 by Bishop de Galarreta, in Winona.

    Fr. Crane is as solid as they come in his sermons and in the confessional. He really seems in the confessional like he wants you to become holy and overcome the sins you confessed.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #3 on: March 21, 2024, 05:03:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: cath4ever on March 20, 2024, 08:25:20 PM
    He is a somewhat later vocation, ordained in 1998 by Bishop de Galarreta, in Winona.

    Fr. Crane is as solid as they come in his sermons and in the confessional. He really seems in the confessional like he wants you to become holy and overcome the sins you confessed.
    If you're talking abut the Fr. Crane from Armada, MI, I 100% agree. 
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #4 on: March 21, 2024, 05:24:03 AM »
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    Several of those interviewed said they reported their concerns to the priests at Immaculate Conception Church. The boy who said he was whipped by Sloniker said he shared that with Father Patrick Crane. He also told the priest that Sloniker made him strip naked.

    Crane, who now is with another Society of Saint Pius X church – Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix – was interviewed by a detective Sept. 22. He said Sloniker worked with the church camp from 2003 to 2006 and that he did not have any issues with him.

    When the detective shared that one of the alleged victims said he had told Crane about Sloniker whipping him, “Crane said he remembers part of it, but it was mostly because (the boy) did not want to attend the camp.”


    https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/oct/26/coeur-dalene-man-jailed-on-1-million-bond-suspecte/




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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #5 on: March 21, 2024, 06:14:02 AM »
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #6 on: March 21, 2024, 06:20:17 AM »
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #7 on: March 21, 2024, 01:14:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 20, 2024, 04:20:38 PM
    Does anyone here know anything about Fr. Patrick Crane? I am considering doing a general confession with him but I don't know who ordained him. If you have any information please PM me.

    I took Cryptinox's query at face value—"know anything about" and "any information" begged the history.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #8 on: March 21, 2024, 01:55:08 PM »
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    • I alway wonder why all these passive inquiries about validity.  Just ask the priest when and who ordained them.  For most priests that was the most significant and meaningful day of their life…most enjoy talking about their vocation and ordination…not to mention, it helps you get to know the person your going to entrust your immortal soul to.  

    Courage my friend, courage!  Strap on some courage and go talk to your priest!
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #9 on: March 21, 2024, 02:01:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on March 21, 2024, 01:55:08 PM
    I alway wonder why all these passive inquiries about validity.  Just ask the priest when and who ordained them.  For most priests that was the most significant and meaningful day of their life…most enjoy talking about their vocation and ordination…not to mention, it helps you get to know the person your going to entrust your immortal soul to. 

    Courage my friend, courage!  Strap on some courage and go talk to your priest!

    Sometimes you can't even get their contact information, and they just show up at your chapel, so then you're scrambling to figure out whether they're undoubedtly valid priests.  I've been in that situation many times, where you're pulling up your web browser after Father "Smith" shows up at your friendly neighborhood SSPX chapel one weekend.

    Best you can do is to see if you can find mention of their ordination online.  Good luck figuring out where they're stationed so that you even have a phone number to call.  Last "Priest Assignments" web page on their site hasn't been updated since 2018.

    In addition, some priests will get hostile if you don't ask the question the "right way", usually obliquely, "Hi, Father, were you at STAS?  When it was at Winona or Virginia?"  That's a good first question.  But the minute some get the impression that your'e asking, "Are you conditionally ordained?", they'll immediately label you a closet sedevacantist or closet Resistance, which could compromise your position at the chapel.

    This is all due to the SSPX playing footsie with the Modernists.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #10 on: March 21, 2024, 02:15:56 PM »
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    • Correct me if I am wrong.  Fr. Patrick Crane was the principal at Post Fall Idaho, when Kevin Sloniker was there.  Kevin Sloniker in jail for messing with boys at that boarding school.   Then he said at the pulpit at Our Lady of Sorrows, Phx. "If you home school your children, it is mortal sin, " children should be here for school."

    Not good.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #11 on: March 21, 2024, 02:19:03 PM »
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    • Correct me is I am wrong, I remember reading, a mother to a son at Post Falls Idaho, tried to get Fr. Crane to help her in those issues with Sloniker.  Mother was not satisfied and went to dioceses Bishop Olmsted.
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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #12 on: March 21, 2024, 08:37:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 21, 2024, 06:14:02 AM

    Readers are referred to: https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sodomy-scandal-in-post-falls-id-sspx-immaculate-conception-academy/

    Just for absolute clarity, it has to be said that Fr. Crane's role in the above was not actual committing of the crime, but a refusal to believe the victim's (correct) accusation and acknowledge/expose Sloniker's guilt. (Not accusing anyone here of saying otherwise, just bringing it up as I saw another example in another situation where this got muddled).


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    I took Cryptinox's query at face value—"know anything about" and "any information" begged the history.

    Complementary to this,  Fr. Crane general information otherwise: 

    He indicated that he was a classmate of Fr. Carl Sulzen in some capacity and was ordained in a Winona class by an SSPX bishop, and this does appear to be true.

    In many respects Fr. Crane actually leaned more towards being an SSPX "hard-liner" rather than a "liberal". He agreed with Bishop Williamson in a lot of areas (theology, Vatican II, political, historical, etc.), and would quote him even after Bp. Williamson was expelled. He frequently would criticize Vatican II during sermons, talks, etc. So on that side, he actually seemed fairly orthodox in comparison to others. He came from Kansas and had a law enforcement or park ranger background  prior to joining seminary. He could have a taut drill instructor-ish way of speaking and doing things. He was very transparent and straightforward to understand, even if a bit blunt, and this made his sermons very objective in a certain way. If you were confident, straightforward, and spoke your mind, he respected you.

    However, he could be very opinionated. He didn't like being questioned about the re-ordination of previously diocesan priests. He often did vocally disagree with homeschooling where a school was present. When hard pressed he would qualify that if no school was present, "highly organized homeschooling" (i.e. with home-made uniforms, set class times, etc.) was the best option. Once again like a drill instructor, he had zero tolerance for what he might perceive at face value as incompetence, lack of discipline,  non-conformity, weakness, or complaining, especially when dealing with the school boys. I'm not sure if this inadvertently played a role in his refusal to believe the victim or if there were more factors involved, but regardless, he made a huge error in that particular case.




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    Re: Fr. Patrick Crane
    « Reply #13 on: March 21, 2024, 10:52:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: hansel on March 21, 2024, 08:37:29 PM

    …However, he could be very opinionated. …

    One hopes that he now understands the difference between facts and opinions and, at least equally important, that his opinions can be and have been WRONG!
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