Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal  (Read 4831 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ladislaus

  • Supporter
Re: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 05:04:08 PM »
Ladislaus,
 
I have already discussed this issue with you before.  You know everything therefore you can learn nothing.

You and your wife (or some other crony) downthumbed the simple citation from Msgr. Fenton.  You're the one who constantly thinks he knows better than Catholic theologians, dismissing them as idiots who don't know Theology 101.

You went on this extended diatribe about religious submission without having any clue what the term actually meant.  You confuse religious submission with the absolute assent of faith.

Offline Ladislaus

  • Supporter
Re: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 05:05:38 PM »
You did not even know that it is part of the content of revelation and part of the act of revelation.  

Except that it's NOT part of the act of revelation ... as taught by Vatican I.


Offline Ladislaus

  • Supporter
Re: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 05:09:29 PM »
Not knowing what the Magisterium is, how could you possible arrive at the correct answer to the problem with the 1989 Profession of Faith with its requirement of unconditional submission of the mind and will to the authentic magisterium?  This question was discussed in detail and your objections never once produced any evidence beyond the authority of your own personal opinions.

And you continue to lie and calumniate ....  I cite theologian after theologian, and am not simply gratuitously asserting my personal opinions, as you in fact do.  With regard to this particular discussion, I cite Msgr. Fenton who in turn cites numerous other theologians, asserting that there's UNIVERSAL agreement among them regarding the points I am making.  You are at once bad willed and intellectually challenged.

Offline Ladislaus

  • Supporter
Re: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 05:14:38 PM »
Notice how Drew and his wife and another crony (a son perhaps) have given the perfunctory 3 downvotes to a post that does nothing but cited Msgr. Fenton, a very well respected and conservative pre-Vatican II theologian, who in turn cites numerous other theologians who teach the same things.  That's because Drew knows better.  Drew knows better than these trained theologians, and knows better that the Pope and Bishops teaching the Universal Church.  Elsewhere Drew denounces Bishop Guerard des Lauriers, a high-ranking pre-Vatican II theologian who helped Pius XII in the definition of the Assumption, co-authored the Ottaviani intervention, and was for a time the personal confessor of Pius XII, Drew denounces him as a simpleton who doesn't know the basics about form and matter.

Quote
Under Pope Pius XII ( 1939–1958 ), Fr. Guérard des Lauriers served as a professor at the Pontifical Lateran University in Rome. Guérard des Lauriers, O.P., was an advisor to the Pope on the dogma of the Assumption of Mary (proclaimed in Munificentissimus Deus) before 1950. From 1954 until 1955 he served as personal Father Confessor to Pius XII, before being replaced by Fr. Augustin Bea, S.J.

Re: Fr. LeRoux Needs a Deal
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 05:19:50 PM »
Catholics are indeed required to give a submission of mind and will to the authentic Magisterium.  You simply don't understand what the term means.
I'm still working on the fact that we're talking about the "1989 Profession of Faith", the Profession of Faith required by.....JPII.