Author Topic: Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls (Read 14087 times)

Machabees · « **on:** December 30, 2012, 09:23:26 PM »

Update: Fr. Vassal and the SSPX chapel Immaculate Conception Academy ICA in Post Falls, ID is now involved in a huge Sodomy scandal:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sodomy-Scandal-in-Post-Falls-ID-SSPX-Immaculate-Conception-Academy

Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

:kick-can:

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »

Quote from: Machabees

Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

:kick-can:

That's rich.

Talk about a lot of nerve -- accusing the resistance of acting like THEY do.

THEY are the ones who have no substance in their accusations -- always relying on vague smears -- using words like rumor, disinformation, agitation, slander, etc. even though they NEVER GET SPECIFIC or give an example of a rumor that turned out to be false.

Sigismund · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2012, 09:32:58 PM »

SSPX priests and religious, and I suppose Third Order members, owe Bishop Fellay obedience as long as they continue to be connected with the Society. It is not clear to me how lay people who attend SSPX chapels but are not in any sense members of the SSPX owe him anything. He is not their bishop. He can;'t be, as he is not an ordinary. He has no episcopal jurisdiction over anyone.

Machabees · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2012, 09:49:18 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

:kick-can:

That's rich.

Talk about a lot of nerve -- accusing the resistance of acting like THEY do.

THEY are the ones who have no substance in their accusations -- always relying on vague smears -- using words like rumor, disinformation, agitation, slander, etc. even though they NEVER GET SPECIFIC or give an example of a rumor that turned out to be false.

Yes, and to add my own observation, I notice in this that the "Resistance" in Post Falls is effective and it is getting to them...

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2012, 09:50:27 PM »

Quote from: Machabees

Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

:kick-can:

All a sermon like this (as well as the elimination of the Cross Bearer position) will do is increase the support for Fr Pfeiffer's group.