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Offline jman123

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Fr Goldade and seminary
« on: September 26, 2023, 11:25:46 PM »
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    • What are your thoughts on Father Goldade being new seminary rector? Are we going to be seeing now a shift to a Bp Williamson style of priestly training?
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #1 on: September 27, 2023, 05:28:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: jman123 on September 26, 2023, 11:25:46 PM
    What are your thoughts on Father Goldade being new seminary rector? Are we going to be seeing now a shift to a Bp Williamson style of priestly training?

    No.  

    They’re just replacing a French face with an American one.  

    They didn’t blow 150 million dollars (and lose/expel 50 priests) to escape the ghost/spirit/memory of +Williamson which still haunts the halls of Winona, just to import that detested spirit to Virginia.

    It’s the same ship, heading in the same direction, with a different captain.
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #2 on: September 27, 2023, 06:23:03 AM »
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    • He's in his mid-40s. He is actually younger than us, Sean. Maybe by a year or more. Given what year he was in, he probably joined the Seminary around age 18.
    And for those unfamiliar, he's part of the large Trad "Goldade" clan, hailing from St. Mary's, KS.

    Rather young for a seminary rector -- a post that calls out to be filled by a father figure, someone older than ANY of the seminarians by more than a couple of years.
    Bishop Williamson certainly had all of us beat, age-wise: even the couple seminarians older than 35. 
    You want wisdom, age, and experience in a Rector.
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #3 on: September 27, 2023, 10:28:40 AM »
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    • We can always pray. How many of you have prayed for the seminary rector recently?
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2023, 11:21:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on September 27, 2023, 06:23:03 AM
     Trad "Goldade" clan, hailing from St. Mary's, KS.
    Not particularly relevant, but I don't think they're from St. Mary's.
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #5 on: September 28, 2023, 03:01:05 AM »
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    • No, Fr. Goldade is nothing like +Bp. W. in personality or temperament.  He served as Prior of St. Ignatius Retreat House in Ridgefield, CT. following the departure of +Bp. (Fr.) Zendejas in I think around 2012.  Fr. Goldade was very young to be made the Prior. I went to Confession to him a few times, but I didn’t really know him.  I do remember attending a conference of some sort in the summer, and discovering he was afraid of my new, slightly unusual pet!  (I brought it to the conference because I stayed free of charge at a campground and feared perhaps a raccoon or bear might break into my tent to eat it for an appetizer.  I brought it out then, in my large jumper pocket, because my car was too hot.
    If Fr. reads CI, which he probably doesn’t, but if so, he’ll probably remember it; the pet, not me!  
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #6 on: September 28, 2023, 09:23:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on September 27, 2023, 11:21:33 PM
    Not particularly relevant, but I don't think they're from St. Mary's.

    Yes, I chose the wrong phrase. I shouldn't have said "hailing from". I think the clan is originally from North Dakota.

    However, I wonder how many of them have moved to St. Mary's and/or become true "children of St Marys".

    I just remember that Fr. Michael Goldade was very much one of the "St Mary's" seminarians. I knew he went to school there for some time. And his cousin also moved to St. Mary's and after a brief stay in Texas, moved back to St. Mary's the moment he could.

    If I moved to Texas 19 years ago, and started wearing a cowboy hat/belt buckle, got involved in ranching/agriculture, became a 2A fanatic (including ownership and practice), ate mostly Tex-mex and barbecue, bought a truck, even practiced and starting using a Texas drawl -- when could you say with accuracy that I "hail from Texas"? Or, when am I a "Texan" rather than a "whatever state I came from" which completely doesn't resemble me in any way?
    When does my identity change -- say, when I visit a third state?
    (NOTE: I'm not saying all these things are true about me -- in fact, except for generally fitting in with the conservative, down-to-earth, hard-working culture, being pro-freedom, anti-communist, anti-Leftist and enjoying the outdoors, I'd say none of those Texas stereotypes fit me, even now.)

    I mean, at what point does your overall culture, bearing, habits, beliefs, and appearance override the clay you were born on?
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2023, 09:03:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on September 28, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
    Yes, I chose the wrong phrase. I shouldn't have said "hailing from". I think the clan is originally from North Dakota.

    However, I wonder how many of them have moved to St. Mary's and/or become true "children of St Marys".

    I just remember that Fr. Michael Goldade was very much one of the "St Mary's" seminarians. I knew he went to school there for some time. And his cousin also moved to St. Mary's and after a brief stay in Texas, moved back to St. Mary's the moment he could.

    If I moved to Texas 19 years ago, and started wearing a cowboy hat/belt buckle, got involved in ranching/agriculture, became a 2A fanatic (including ownership and practice), ate mostly Tex-mex and barbecue, bought a truck, even practiced and starting using a Texas drawl -- when could you say with accuracy that I "hail from Texas"? Or, when am I a "Texan" rather than a "whatever state I came from" which completely doesn't resemble me in any way?
    When does my identity change -- say, when I visit a third state?
    (NOTE: I'm not saying all these things are true about me -- in fact, except for generally fitting in with the conservative, down-to-earth, hard-working culture, being pro-freedom, anti-communist, anti-Leftist and enjoying the outdoors, I'd say none of those Texas stereotypes fit me, even now.)

    I mean, at what point does your overall culture, bearing, habits, beliefs, and appearance override the clay you were born on?
    He was the Sacristan in St. Mary's when y wife and i married there.  he has been at St. Vincents where I attended for 30 years until recently.  He know of my  Sede-vacantism and did NOT try to challenge me in any way.    he is young tho.  
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    Re: Fr Goldade and seminary
    « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2023, 09:08:57 PM »
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    • My wife is an 8th gen Texan and even descended directly to Jim Bowie.  Her brother's 10 kids are all born in St. Mary's and claim they are Texans.  Drives me nuts, its not an ethnic group.  my 4 are also directly descended as well but they are all born in Kansas City and make no bones about being Texan.  Sicilian/German/Irish/Choctaw they are
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