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Re: Fr. Girouard acquired a property for real Priory: Deo Gratias!
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2019, 12:48:39 PM »
Not to worry. The sedevacantists and Plinio/Guimaraes devotees will fill in the gaps. The Resistance in the U.S. doesn't really care if the situation is poor and desperate. Easy pickins' for the fringe trads to take up the slack (obviously), which has already been done. Effectively, there is no Resistance in the U.S.

More or less true:

The Resistance only exists in concreto in France, where they have 25-30 priests in a country 1/10th the size of the USA.

After France, the drop off is precipitous.

In fact, if you leave out the independents and NUC’ers, I can’t think of a country that has more than 5 Resistance priests, except Brazil.

Independence neutralized the Resistance.

And the new “congregations” which sprung up after they figured that out missed the opportune time:

Most of the priests who had already left (or were expelled from) the SSPX had already bought into that suicidal vision (or pretended they did), and/or fell in love with their independence.

I was tempted to say that I don’t blame them, since it was not until after the consecration of Bishop Faure that there was even a seminary (and another year after that, that there were any congregations), by which time many priests had been on their own for 4+ years, and had no choice but independence (Bishop Williamson refusing to organize anything, and preaching against any such attempts).

But what stops me short of doing so, is that all these priests have preferred to remain independent even after the creation of these congregations (despite the FACT that every single one of them, objectively speaking, has been called to a hierarchical community life in virtue of their SSPX ordinations).

Those who have persisted in their independence are setting their faithful up for a rerun of Fr. Nelson’s Powers Lake.

And of course, dispersed, slowly dissolving enclaves is hardly a blueprint for restoration (a concept which is antithetical to hunkering down/vacating the battlefield).

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Re: Fr. Girouard acquired a property for real Priory: Deo Gratias!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2019, 01:07:07 PM »
The Resistance only exists in concreto in France, where they have 25-30 priests in a country 1/10th the size of the USA.
How many of those (appx) are Dominicans?


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Re: Fr. Girouard acquired a property for real Priory: Deo Gratias!
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2019, 01:20:11 PM »
More or less true:

The Resistance only exists in concreto in France, where they have 25-30 priests in a country 1/10th the size of the USA.

After France, the drop off is precipitous.

In fact, if you leave out the independents and NUC’ers, I can’t think of a country that has more than 5 Resistance priests, except Brazil.

Independence neutralized the Resistance.

And the new “congregations” which sprung up after they figured that out missed the opportune time:

Most of the priests who had already left (or were expelled from) the SSPX had already bought into that suicidal vision (or pretended they did), and/or fell in love with their independence.

I was tempted to say that I don’t blame them, since it was not until after the consecration of Bishop Faure that there was even a seminary (and another year after that, that there were any congregations), by which time many priests had been on their own for 4+ years, and had no choice but independence (Bishop Williamson refusing to organize anything, and preaching against any such attempts).

But what stops me short of doing so, is that all these priests have preferred to remain independent even after the creation of these congregations (despite the FACT that every single one of them, objectively speaking, has been called to a hierarchical community life in virtue of their SSPX ordinations).

Those who have persisted in their independence are setting their faithful up for a rerun of Fr. Nelson’s Powers Lake.

And of course, dispersed, slowly dissolving enclaves is hardly a blueprint for restoration (a concept which is antithetical to hunkering down/vacating the battlefield).

I have been thinking something similar - that the Resistance really only exists in France. And that's only because Bp. Faure and the Dominicans of Avrille cared enough to keep it going (God bless them for that). I agree that after France, the drop off is precipitous. The United States is a HUGE, HUGE country, and yet the number of Resistance priests can be counted on one hand. Or maybe two at the most. That is miniscule.

It's no wonder that the sedevacantists, sedewhatevers, and Plinio/Guimaraes devotes have taken over the forum - since there are few who care enough about the Resistance to defend it. Well, let them have it! It reminds me of when I used to post a lot on the Catholic Answers forum, in order to try to defend Tradition.
But the system there was rigged against such a defense, just as defending the Resistance here is rigged, too. There's no use in trying to spend time here defending the Resistance when the forum could care less about such a defense. It's futile.

I must say, however, that I admire the zeal with which the sedevacantists, sedewhatevers, and Plinio/Guimarares devotees defend their goofy causes. They care far more about their cause than the Resistance does about theirs.

You may be right in that independence is the root of problem. But then...that's what the U.S. is all about: independence; hence the large number of sedevacantists and sedewhatevers.
I'm not familiar with Fr. Nelson's Powers Lake, or NUC. Can you explain further?

I agree that dispersed and slowly dissolving enclaves is hardly a blueprint for Restoration, but I think that Restoration does not seem to be the goal. I'm not sure what the goal is exactly.  



Re: Fr. Girouard acquired a property for real Priory: Deo Gratias!
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2019, 01:36:57 PM »
There's no use in trying to spend time here defending the Resistance when the forum could care less about such a defense. It's futile.

Perhaps, if you are so unhappy here, you can find somewhere else to post your negativity? Every post is a swipe at the forum. Why do that to yourself?