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Offline chrstnoel1

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« on: October 04, 2012, 03:13:12 AM »
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  • FR. FRANCOIS SERMON on the Feast of St. Therese, the Little Flower.

    3rd October 2012

    @ youtube




    God bless.
    "It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
    Fr. Michael Muller, The Church and Her Enemies


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    « Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 06:50:48 AM »
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  • Thank you.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 09:23:35 AM »
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  •  :applause:  Thank you so much.  Another battle cry for the TRUTH.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 01:12:25 PM »
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  • So Rev. Fr. Pfeiffer is now officially expelled?

    A sad day for the SSPX is such is the case.
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"

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    « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 02:58:27 AM »
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  • There could be more to this than is publicly known and maybe we should pray for all concerned.
     :pray: :pray: :pray:


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    « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 03:18:35 AM »
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  • You should speak more forthrightly in your posts as to what you mean, instead of always dropping ambiguous hints with your obligatory prayer icons.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 06:31:47 AM »
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  • So where is the updated list of the expelled priests?

    There was a thread on that but I can't find it now. It should be a sticky thread......  :chef:




    I'd like to see a poll that asks random SSPX chapel faithful if they know that
    +Fellay is expelling all the priests that are courageous enough to oppose the
    deal agenda he has going on.

    It seems to me that most of them are unaware this is going on.  After all, it's not
    making headlines anywhere.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 03:35:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    It seems to me that most of them are unaware this is going on.  After all, it's not making headlines.  


    I ran into a couple of "them" this weekend.  "They" knew that priests are being expelled, but are 100% behind +Fellay.  "They" were glad to be rid of the "troublemakers".

    It's very depressing for me.  I wish that +Williamson already had his organization up and running, with a priest to serve here.  I just want out of this mess.  The faithful who support +Fellay have no idea of the consequences of their actions.




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    « Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 03:40:07 PM »
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    The faithful who support +Fellay have no idea of the consequences of their actions.


    Many know, unfortunately.  Probably most want to be more liberal.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 04:02:51 PM »
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  • BW will do nothing, it is foolish to wait for him... he owes us nothing...

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    « Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 02:16:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: stgobnait
    BW will do nothing, it is foolish to wait for him... he owes us nothing...

    This brings up another question. Why didn't +Williamson collaborate with Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer if H.E. agrees with them? After all, +Williamson also disobeyed the District Superior of South America, Fr. Boucharcourt by going to Brazil.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 05:29:42 AM »
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    BW will do nothing, it is foolish to wait for him... he owes us nothing...

    This brings up another question. Why didn't +Williamson collaborate with Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer if H.E. agrees with them? After all, +Williamson also disobeyed the District Superior of South America, Fr. Boucharcourt by going to Brazil.



    Bishops do not like mere priests taking the initiative; there is a chain of command. Bp. Tissier came down hard on these priests for not obeying their "generals". And Bp. Williamson would not openly back them unless it was his idea. His trip to Brazil was to serve an existing independent group, although I think he was testing the water to see how SSPX officials would respond. He may not repeat such a move. He is a survivor and will measure accurately the amount of leeway his standing and adversaries afford him. This could go on for years.    

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    « Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 09:08:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Wessex
    Bishops do not like mere priests taking the initiative; there is a chain of command. Bp. Tissier came down hard on these priests for not obeying their "generals". And Bp. Williamson would not openly back them unless it was his idea.

    Come on Wessex, that last sentence is too cheap. :-) You know he's a very humble man. The bishop was and is in close contact with the resistance groups, including the one of Fathers Joseph Pfeiffer and Chazal. And so the bishop advices the resistance priests in a certain way. We can see it when we listen to the sermons of Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer: both are inspired a lot by Bishop Williamson, also with current ideas (one time Fr. Pfeiffer preached by reading aloud an EC).

    Usually the bishop has excellent reasons to do or not to do a certain thing at a certain point in time. Many times we only learn later why this was the case, because he does whatever providence indicates. So, Wessex, let's not forget providence! Because Bishop Williamson is on Our Lord's side.

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    His trip to Brazil was to serve an existing independent group, although I think he was testing the water to see how SSPX officials would respond. He may not repeat such a move. He is a survivor and will measure accurately the amount of leeway his standing and adversaries afford him. This could go on for years.

    It will hardly go on for years.
    For one thing Europe and probably other parts of the world will likely be on fire in one year or even earlier (well, the border between Syria and Turkey is already on grenade fire right now and the NATO will have to act). And concerning the doom of the Euro and its resulting (civil?) wars, just listen to this bright Scotsman Nigel Farange.
    But for another thing Bishop Fellay really wants to get rid of Bishop Williamson for a long time now (and on Rome's side it could even be a pre-condition for any re-union. That's a speculation, but a reasonable speculation I think). So the expulsion of Bishop Williamson from the SSPX doesn't seem so far away. He formally received his "canonical warning" already some month ago, or so we've been told from some good sources.

    How much reaction would there be if Bishop Williamson was thrown out? One might well fear, not much, but that is in God's hands. If he was thrown out, what would he do? I think it's safe to suppose that he would answer invitations from wherever they come.