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E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
« on: August 20, 2024, 04:49:58 PM »
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  • E Michael Jones says that Abp. Carlo Marie Vigano is in schism.  He has broken the unity of the Church, and is, therefore excommunicted.  Add to Vigano's alleged schism the names of Bp Williamson and Abp Lefebvre.  What think the forum members?

    E Michael Jones Excommunicate Archbishop Vigano -Michael, You And Your Jew Sheke Will Burn In Hell (bitchute.com)

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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2024, 05:20:18 PM »
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  • :laugh2::laugh1:  As if E. Michael Jones has the authority to declare anyone in schism! :facepalm:


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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2024, 06:12:59 PM »
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  • E. Michael Jones is a "conservative" Novus Ordite who is completely hostile to traditional Catholicism.

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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2024, 07:44:44 PM »
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  • :laugh2::laugh1:  As if E. Michael Jones has the authority to declare anyone in schism! :facepalm:

    THIS ^^^.  He can "declare" whatever he want, as can I.  I declare Jones to be a non-Catholic who's outside the Church.  Neither one of our declarations has any effect.

    Of course, the term "declare" may just be the term OP used rather than Jones, who may simply be opining about schism.

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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2024, 08:47:58 PM »
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  • Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition.  I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo".  Now we know.


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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #5 on: August 21, 2024, 06:20:31 AM »
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  • God is showing us the false Catholics.  
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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #6 on: August 21, 2024, 06:22:18 AM »
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  • Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition.  I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo".  Now we know.
    Free masons all around playing headgames. 
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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #7 on: August 21, 2024, 07:46:34 AM »
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  • Why should I listen to someone who says the above?   :confused:


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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #8 on: August 21, 2024, 07:56:50 AM »
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  • Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition.  I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo".  Now we know.

    THIS ^^^, but I knew that before based on your second statement above, that he has not been disciplined or fired.

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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #9 on: August 21, 2024, 07:58:54 AM »
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  • E Michael Jones is the definition of an out-of-touch, narcissist, control-freak boomer.  A moron who sees nothing wrong with much of the Church situation because...he's more interested in other things...so he "trusts the system" and blames anyone else who attempts to reach the level of loud-mouthed-ness that he does.  Add in 'controlled opposition' and he could've been a great politician.

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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #10 on: August 21, 2024, 08:41:51 AM »
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  • I bought many of his books in the past, but his insistence about Bergoglio is such a turn off. He loses total credibility with his curious and incoherent position about the Novus Ordo.
    I think he hit his "peak" so to speak and will lose influence now with his support of the Conciliar mess.


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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #11 on: August 21, 2024, 12:18:30 PM »
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  • I don’t trust anyone with a bow tie.  Lol
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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #12 on: August 21, 2024, 03:28:43 PM »
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  • Dr. Jones acts so idiotic at times.  He says, "What did Jesus Christ say about the Latin Mass - nothing.  What did He say about unity - a lot."  Christ in Holy Writ says very little about the Mass, so I guess according to this logic every Catholic can discount the Mass.  The New Testament says nothing about Mary's Immaculate Conception, I guess we can discount that as well.  

    He contends that Bp. Williamson is in schism, and I presume that he would not contend that the bishop was in schism when a member of the SSPX.  I like Dr. Jones in his research of history, but when it comes to theology, "Katie bar the door." 
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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #13 on: August 21, 2024, 04:49:14 PM »
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    He contends that Bp. Williamson is in schism, and I presume that he would not contend that the bishop was in schism when a member of the SSPX.  ...

    EMJ has made many comments in the past, including the recent past, alluding to the entire SSPX being in schism.

    EMJ is a mixed bag, to say the least. I listen to his podcast, subscribe to his magazine, and have bought many of his books (with regard to the latter, I wish he would hire a decent editor--he is quite verbose and most of what he writes can be whittled down a bit). While I agree with him about 80% of the time, that 20% in which I don't agree with him on are big issues.  His love for the Mass in the vernacular; his total blindness to what is happening, and what has happened, to the Church in the past 50 odd years; and his disdain for what he refers to as the "Latin Mass traditionalists." This latter part seems to go back for quite some time.

    On the other hand, he was recently described by +Strickland as "antiSemetic" and pulled out of a conference being held by Patrick Coffin merely because EMJ was scheduled to speak at the same conference.  :facepalm:

    For the past couple of years, I have thought EMJ to be Opus Dei, which would somewhat explain his outright refusal to criticize the Argentine and/or his disdain for the Latin Mass. However, in a recent podcast, he outright denied being a member of Opus Dei, instead stating that he was merely a member of the Knights of Columbus.  :confused:


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    Re: E Michael Jones declares Abp. Vigano in schism
    « Reply #14 on: August 21, 2024, 05:20:44 PM »
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  • Dr. Jones acts so idiotic at times.  He says, "What did Jesus Christ say about the Latin Mass - nothing.  What did He say about unity - a lot." 

    Sounds like a Prot.  We have the Catholic Church that has said plenty about the Tridentine Mass, including anathematizing at Trent those who say Latin should be abandoned in favor of the vernacular.  When the Church speaks, it's Christ speaking through the Church.  Last time I checked Our Lord didn't say a (recorded) word about abortion either ... nor about many other dogmas that were nevertheless deemed revealed via the Apostles.  Jones is an idiot if he thinks there can be "unity" without unity of faith, and unity in the right faith.