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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: hollingsworth on August 20, 2024, 04:49:58 PM
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E Michael Jones says that Abp. Carlo Marie Vigano is in schism. He has broken the unity of the Church, and is, therefore excommunicted. Add to Vigano's alleged schism the names of Bp Williamson and Abp Lefebvre. What think the forum members?
E Michael Jones Excommunicate Archbishop Vigano -Michael, You And Your Jew Sheke Will Burn In Hell (bitchute.com) (https://old.bitchute.com/video/NHX2rssvI2Nx/)
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:laugh2::laugh1: As if E. Michael Jones has the authority to declare anyone in schism! :facepalm:
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E. Michael Jones is a "conservative" Novus Ordite who is completely hostile to traditional Catholicism.
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:laugh2::laugh1: As if E. Michael Jones has the authority to declare anyone in schism! :facepalm:
THIS ^^^. He can "declare" whatever he want, as can I. I declare Jones to be a non-Catholic who's outside the Church. Neither one of our declarations has any effect.
Of course, the term "declare" may just be the term OP used rather than Jones, who may simply be opining about schism.
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Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition. I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo". Now we know.
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God is showing us the false Catholics.
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Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition. I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo". Now we know.
Free masons all around playing headgames.
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(https://i.imgur.com/M2V4c39.png)
Why should I listen to someone who says the above? :confused:
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Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition. I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo". Now we know.
THIS ^^^, but I knew that before based on your second statement above, that he has not been disciplined or fired.
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E Michael Jones is the definition of an out-of-touch, narcissist, control-freak boomer. A moron who sees nothing wrong with much of the Church situation because...he's more interested in other things...so he "trusts the system" and blames anyone else who attempts to reach the level of loud-mouthed-ness that he does. Add in 'controlled opposition' and he could've been a great politician.
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I bought many of his books in the past, but his insistence about Bergoglio is such a turn off. He loses total credibility with his curious and incoherent position about the Novus Ordo.
I think he hit his "peak" so to speak and will lose influence now with his support of the Conciliar mess.
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I don’t trust anyone with a bow tie. Lol
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Dr. Jones acts so idiotic at times. He says, "What did Jesus Christ say about the Latin Mass - nothing. What did He say about unity - a lot." Christ in Holy Writ says very little about the Mass, so I guess according to this logic every Catholic can discount the Mass. The New Testament says nothing about Mary's Immaculate Conception, I guess we can discount that as well.
He contends that Bp. Williamson is in schism, and I presume that he would not contend that the bishop was in schism when a member of the SSPX. I like Dr. Jones in his research of history, but when it comes to theology, "Katie bar the door."
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He contends that Bp. Williamson is in schism, and I presume that he would not contend that the bishop was in schism when a member of the SSPX. ...
EMJ has made many comments in the past, including the recent past, alluding to the entire SSPX being in schism.
EMJ is a mixed bag, to say the least. I listen to his podcast, subscribe to his magazine, and have bought many of his books (with regard to the latter, I wish he would hire a decent editor--he is quite verbose and most of what he writes can be whittled down a bit). While I agree with him about 80% of the time, that 20% in which I don't agree with him on are big issues. His love for the Mass in the vernacular; his total blindness to what is happening, and what has happened, to the Church in the past 50 odd years; and his disdain for what he refers to as the "Latin Mass traditionalists." This latter part seems to go back for quite some time.
On the other hand, he was recently described by +Strickland as "antiSemetic" (https://bishopstrickland.com/blog/post/an-important-statement-of-clarification) and pulled out of a conference being held by Patrick Coffin merely because EMJ was scheduled to speak at the same conference. :facepalm:
For the past couple of years, I have thought EMJ to be Opus Dei, which would somewhat explain his outright refusal to criticize the Argentine and/or his disdain for the Latin Mass. However, in a recent podcast, he outright denied being a member of Opus Dei, instead stating that he was merely a member of the Knights of Columbus. :confused:
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Dr. Jones acts so idiotic at times. He says, "What did Jesus Christ say about the Latin Mass - nothing. What did He say about unity - a lot."
Sounds like a Prot. We have the Catholic Church that has said plenty about the Tridentine Mass, including anathematizing at Trent those who say Latin should be abandoned in favor of the vernacular. When the Church speaks, it's Christ speaking through the Church. Last time I checked Our Lord didn't say a (recorded) word about abortion either ... nor about many other dogmas that were nevertheless deemed revealed via the Apostles. Jones is an idiot if he thinks there can be "unity" without unity of faith, and unity in the right faith.
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I don’t trust anyone with a bow tie. Lol
Not a bad point.
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Father Gruner made a statement once to a religion scholar, Michael Cuneo, that EMJ was "secretly a Jew". Wouldn't surprise me.
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Father Gruner made a statement once to a religion scholar, Michael Cuneo, that EMJ was "secretly a Jew". Wouldn't surprise me.
I posted about that on Cathinfo some time ago, which is where you probably read it. It wasn't Father Gruner, but reportedly his secretary. Smoke of Satan (1999) by Cuneo:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Smoke_of_Satan/8OL9tyvN5YcC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=michael%20jones
"he's a jew-boy."
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bonaventure: While I agree with him about 80% of the time, that 20% in which I don't agree with him on are big issues. His love for the Mass in the vernacular; his total blindness to what is happening, and what has happened, to the Church in the past 50 odd years; and his disdain for what he refers to as the "Latin Mass traditionalists." This latter part seems to go back for quite some time.
I think you state my position as well. Jones is no dummy. His scholarly writings are well researched and genuine. He's no secret Jew. That notion is pure nonsense. But, as you say, the 20% of the time not getting it right presents a problem for many apparently. not just me.
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He's no secret Jєω. That notion is pure nonsense.
Based on what?
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I don't know why Fr. Gruner's secretary was so candid with Cuneo. Cuneo smells to high heavens. Never admit to jws or those who serve them that you're anti-jwish, unless you have the advantage.
As for EMJ I posted a long time ago scans of his various books going back 30 years (though he may have been forced by events to change his tune in the last few years) that every reference he makes to the holohoaks is not a rejection that it happened.
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Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition. I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo". Now we know.
He only lasted 6 months at his only teaching gig which was at St. Mary's in South Bend, Indiana around 1980. He says he was canned for being anti-abortion. He tells his story in about the first 7 minutes at the link below. I don't think he started focusing on the tribe in his writings until the early 2000s leading up to "The Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit" which was published in 2008.
My opinion FWIW: He's a smart guy who has written some good books but is hopelessly attached to the NO. He also has an over inflated opinion of himself. I take his theological opinions with the same seriousness as those of Michael Voris. I thought his debate with Michael Davies(+RIP+) in the early 1990's was a no contest in Davies favor concerning whether or not the SSPX was in schism. Randy Engel wrote some essays in the past claiming he was Opus Dei. Who knows, and quite frankly, I could care less. Is he a crypto? I consider my joodar pretty good since I've lived in the US joo capital for 7 decades and grew up and worked amongst them for 5....no.
E Michael Jones - Degenerate Moderns - 7/13/96 (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjEeg6AmCw) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjEeg6AmCw)
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PV: Now we know that Jones is controlled opposition. I always wondered how he got away with working at a college and openly being "anti-joo". Now we know.
Now we know? Now we know what? Controlled opposition? What in the world are you talking about?